The Trouble with Isms (was 'male-identification')

[mmarth at peoplepc.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 3609

--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Ebony " <ebonyink at h...> wrote:

> 

> 
> As the daughter of a Vietnam vet, and the sweetheart of a man in 
> uniform, the idea that war is a necessary evil as long as we humans 
> have hierarchical tendencies is branded into my psyche.  
> 
> I was a pacifist as a teen until my father sat me down and 
explained 
> to me exactly how he felt coming home from Asia as a shell-shocked 
> nineteen year old and getting spat upon, jeered at, etc.  Yes, the 
> war was stupid (as most wars are) and our men shouldn't have been 
> over there.  But the people who should have gotten unclean bodily 
> fluids tossed upon them were in Washington.
> 
> If the real world and Harry's world were like heaven, I'd say sure, 
> let's follow that passage in Isaiah, convert our weapons into 
farming 
> implements, and make love and not war.
> 
> But neither world is so benign.  Scale down the armed forces?  
You'd 
> better believe that the 21st century's answer to Hitler will come 
> knocking at out door.
> 
> You may not mind World War III being fought in Britain or the 
United 
> States.  But *I* do.


I had really planned on staying out of all the political and other 
areas of discussion that are not Harry Potter related but I feel I 
must comment on this.  

First off I must say with all sincerity that I appreciate all the 
sacrifices that the soldiers AND their families have made for this 
great country of ours.  I, for one, have always supported the Vietnam 
soldiers and feel a great disservice was done to them.  I truly am 
grateful for your dad and others who went.  There are many who share 
my sentiments.  I also agree whole-heartedly with the statements 
concerning scaling down the armed forces.  I have family members in 
the service at this moment, not to mention that my husband, parents, 
sister, and I have all served at one time (and many other family 
members). With all that is going on in the world I would hope we 
continue to support our men and women.  They need are prayers and 
backing.

Now if you truly believe all we have to do is have a little chat with 
these terrorists, then let me assure you.....well, to put it nicely, 
you are not in the real world. 
> 

> 
> I have no desire to punish white Anglo-Saxon Protestant men.  The 
> fact that I am neither white nor Anglo-Saxon nor Protestant nor 
male 
> does not give me the right to sit in judgment of them.  (The fact 
> that I believe that every unjust act is avenged by Someone 
eventually 
> helps a great deal with this

Uh -oh.  LOL  I am somewhat in trouble now.  I am:

First and foremost a Christian (conservative Southern Baptist)
Female (I bet everyone figured that out)
White
Conservative in Politics
And I love the Harry Potter books and wish to discuss them if I am 
not thrown out for stating my opinions.

I accidentally erased the parts you had about this being JKR's 
books.  You are so right.  We all have our own ideas of what happened 
and what we want to happen.  Let's let JKR continue to write as she 
has....we are here because we like her writing.  I hope we (including 
myself) don't expect too much of the future books that we are not 
able to enjoy them if they don't exactly follow our plans for the 
story and characters. 
   
> > Long live Harry Potter--the Boy Who Lived (and sparked 
controversy)!


> 
> Ebony

Yes, Yes, Yes.

Martha