UK, Ireland - the boring details (OT)
Rita Winston
catlady at wicca.net
Fri Sep 1 23:59:31 UTC 2000
No: HPFGUIDX 738
--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, Neil Ward <neilward at d...> wrote:
> - 'Great Britain' has referred to the union of England, Scotland
> and Wales since 1707. The term excludes Northern Ireland, the Isle
> of Man and the Channel Islands.
>
> - 'The British Isles' is a geographical term encompassing Great
> Britain, Northern Ireland and all the surrounding isles, including
> the aforementioned ones and Scottish islands, such as the
> Shetlands, but excluding the Republic of Ireland.
>
> - 'The United Kingdom is a political term, as Simon said, shorthand
> for 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'. It
> does not usually include the smaller islands.
Oh, dear! If the political-entity names (Great Britain and United
Kingdom) don't include the Isle of Man (altho' I've never heard of it
being ruled by a different government -- I have heard of some Channel
Islands (a phrase that anywhere else means to me Catalina, San
Nicolas, and the other Santa Barbara Channel Islands!) still being
ruled by dictat of their feudal lords), then why isn't Man enough of
an entity to rate its own National Team for Quidditch (and Muggle
soccer football, but I think that tailless cats and being named after
the god Mananaan would lead to a higher porportion of wizard folk in
the population of Man than in some other places)?
If I say in future that Hogwarts is the wizarding school for the
whole islands of Britain and Ireland, are people going to get on
my case about the little isles?
>
> - 'Lewisham' is the region where I live. It is a component of
> London, England, Great Britain, the United Kingdom, the British
> Isles, the European Union, Europe, the World, the Earth, the Solar
> System, the Milky Way, the Universe.
I gather you've been reading up on James Joyce, who is said by Joseph
Campbell to have a 'wall' them in FINNEGAN'S WAKE deriving from
Stephen Dedalus having written his info (as yours above) on the fly
page of a (primary school?) textbook and then stared at it wondering
what about the Universe as the final term: does it go on forever or
does it come to an end; what could be next to the end of the univrse,
a WALL around it?
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