[HPforGrownups] Focaccia and Harry Potter

Denise gypsycaine at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 3 13:27:01 UTC 2000


No: HPFGUIDX 833

With the descript Krum gives during the Yule Ball, could it be somewhere in Sweden, or the nearby companies?  (Never can spell that main name, so didn't want to chance it--scand something.)    

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  People keep overlooking this, and I've begun to find it a bit irritating. Durmstrang is NOT in Russia or Bulgaria. It's somewhere in Europe. Remember when Hermione was talking about "An Appraisal of Magical Education in Europe", and Durmstrang was mentioned as having a lot of emphasis on the Dark Arts? Geez, if I see one more MWPP fic that mentions Durmstrang in the USSR...

  Ellie
  "Wormtail, I need somebody with brains, somebody whose loyalty has never wavered, and you, unfortunatedly, fulfill neither requirement." --Uncle Voldie 

  In a message dated Sun, 3 Sep 2000  4:24:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Firebolt" <particle at urbanet.ch> writes:


  <I love Italy, there is just something- well- magical 
  about it.  Maybe that is why I always thought that the country had a 
  large enough wizard pop. to support a school.  Why then is the 
  nearest school Beauxbatons, (which totally off the topic of this post 
  I've always pictured as looking like Chambord in the Loire Valley.)
    
  Does that mean that the Italian students would be expected to learn 
  French?  If that was the case then the school would also have pupils 
  from Spain, and Portugal, and probably  parts of Switzerland.  That's 
  well and good but I don't buy it. There HAS to be more schools that 
  just the three.  (I'm going to contradict myself but in book four it 
  says these are just the main ones right?)

  Of course I can't see the Irish going to Hogwarts either....>

  In Europe, second languages come into play a lot sooner than in the States. When I started school in Europe in 7th grade, I had to learn French, catch up on several years of German, and start Latin. The next year I continued all those languages and added Greek, then the year after that I changed schools, so I could no longer take the classics, but had Italian for a semester. So it's not such a big deal as all that. I'd imagine that Swiss students would definitely go to Beauxbatons, unless there's a German school and an Italian school, in which case Swiss students would go to the school taught in the language of their region. I have no idea where the Swiss Romansch (sp?) speakers would go - probably into the Italian school. As for Spain and Portugal, they probably have a school as well...it's a question of language. The three most spoken languages in Europe (this is mostly guesswork, here, could someone confirm this?) are probably English, Russian, and French, which corresponds!
  to the Triwizard schools, and those are the largest ones.

  <If Beauxbatons is located in Andorra, as a few people believe 
  after having read some novel about romantic, magical Andorra, it is 
  probably geographically closer to the Spanish students than to the 
  French ones.>

  Plus, Andorrans don't speak French, they speak Catalan, I think.

  <I had great fun inventing names for American wizarding schools for PoU...I
  decided that there should be three in a country as large as the one in
  which I now sit.>

  So there should be multiple ones in Russia, as well, meaning that Durmstrang is the largest and there are a couple of smaller ones elsewhere. Unless Durmstrang is Bulgarian, which I don't believe because Russia is a lot bigger than Bulgaria, so it should have a bigger school somewhere - and anyway it's not such a stretch for Krum to speak Russian.

  You know, it comes out to a lot of schools worldwide, if we keep estimating this way...at least 30-something...but I'm sure that in some parts of the world, wizards learn their craft by apprenticeship, or something.

  ~Firebolt



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