Priori Incantatem Order

milz absinthe at mad.scientist.com
Tue Sep 19 00:34:55 UTC 2000


No: HPFGUIDX 1677

Good points from everyone. But I have my own spin on that "JAmes " 
shadow...I sort of think it was Tom Marvolo Riddle. 

Hagrid alluded that V. wasn't human anymore. And Dumbledore said that 
Tom Riddle underwent so many transformations to become V. that people 
forgot he was Tom M. Riddle. So what if the Avada Kedavra bounced off 
Harry, hit V. and killed V.'s human part...Tom Marvolo Riddle?

After all in Book 2., Harry said that Tom M. Riddle looked like 
him..dark hair, thin, etc.

Milz
--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Steve Bates" <spicoli323 at h...> 
wrote:
> Okay, that explains my objection in my previous post.  Still, it is 
> tough to believe that Voldy wouldn't take the path of least 
> resistance and just *kill* James to get him out of the way.  I 
don't 
> think it's beyond Voldy to cause a little pointless suffering, but 
if 
> his primary goal was Harry, he should have gotten *everyone* that 
> stood between him and Harry out of the way as completely as 
possible; 
> i.e. he shouldn't have put James in any position that he could 
> possibly recover from and screw Voldy up at an inopportune time.
> Then again, if the reason Voldy was after Harry was because he was 
> Gryffindor's heir (which I believe was part of the reason), Harry 
> wouldn't have been Voldy's only primary target.  If Harry was a 
> descendent of Gryffindor, either James (or, less likely but still 
> possible, Lily) would have to be a descendent of Gryffindor, too, 
> which would mean that Voldy would be after him (or her) as well.
> Didn't someone a while ago bring up the possibility that the shade 
> that came from Voldy's wand that Harry thought was James wasn't 
James 
> at all but Harry himself?  So that phantom would actually represent 
> the failed spell that attempted to kill Harry, while the next one 
was 
> the spell that killed Lily, and James never actually got to appear 
at 
> all.  I don't have a clue at the moment as to why the Harry phantom 
> would be in the form of an adult, though.  Still, I think this has 
as 
> much potential as the other two main theories for explaining the 
> order the phantoms came out of the wand.
>  
> --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Kelley " <SKTHOMPSON_1 at m...> 
wrote:
> > I've been thinking some more, here's a slight alternative to my 
> last 
> > theory:
> > 
> > Harry is Vold's primary target.  Instead of Vold trying to kill 
> > James, he throws the cruciatus curse at him to get him out of the 
> > way.  James is unable to throw this one, same as Harry.  Vold 
> offers 
> > to spare Lily's life if she'll surrender Harry, she refuses, he 
> kills 
> > her.  When he curses Harry, whatever Harry's special power is 
> > rebounds the curse on Vold, and the force of this destroys the 
> house, 
> > killing James.  Still the same, James gets hit by this third 
> curse.  
> > Perhaps the fact that they are in Godric's Hollow at the time 
(and 
> > Harry is Gryff's descendant--the Heir of Gryffindor?) is what 
gives 
> > Harry this 'special power' that saves him and rebounds the curse 
> onto 
> > Vold.-- the Heir of Slyth. and Gryff's enemy.
> > 
> > How about that?
> > 
> > Kelley





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