1: ~sognirjari/ 2: prophecy 3: Ilya Kuryakin 4: S/L

Rita Winston catlady at wicca.net
Sun Sep 24 05:11:06 UTC 2000


No: HPFGUIDX 2014

--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Pogonia the Harry Potter fan" 
<pogoniamalfoy at h...> wrote:

> ::delurking:: It's been done in fanfic too, Harry Potter and the 
> Doomspell Potion,   http://home.att.net/~sognirjari/

1. I bookmarked that URL, and it was there this morning, but when I 
finally had time to read fiction this afternoon, it isn't there any 
more!

2. It's a hypothetical prophecy: that's why no (or very very few) 
people remember reading it in the Canon.

3. Ilya Kuryakin was a Good Guy, and I don't remember his mouth being 
*as* nasty as Draco's, altho' he could be relied on for sarcasm  .... 
Ilya was Napoleon Solo's partner in "the Man from UNCLE" TV show (and 
spin-off books) back in the '60s. Altho' the character was stated to 
be Russian, he was played by non-Russian blond actor David McCallum, 
and all little girls who watched the show were in love with him. (We 
who are now old middle-aged ladies in our 40s were little girls back 
then.) 

4. I, too, believe that Lucius is older than MWPP-Lily-Snape. In GoF, 
Sirius mentions that Severus used to hang out with a bunch of 
Slytherins who all became Death Eaters: Wilkes and Rozier, Avery, 
the Lestranges... He didn't mention Lucius Malfoy.

I imagine that young Severus became friends with a  clique of his 
Housemates (I imagine that it was the second-rate clique, because I 
imagine that the first-rate clique was too snobby to admit him), 
who at first merely tolerated him because he was useful to them, to 
help with their homework (or do it for them), help them cram for 
exams, make Potions for them (weight-loss, acne-removal, temporary 
memory-enhancement for exams, teaching them Curses to use on people 
they don't like), 

but, as they got used to having him around (familiarity breeds 
affection more often than contempt), decided that his vicious tongue 
was wittiness (when the insults are aimed at someone outside their 
clique, they all laugh in enjoyment, when they're aimed at someone in 
the clique, they resolutely say: "That Severus, he has such a sense 
of humor, always saying funny things, ha-ha!") and his totally inept 
absolute lack of social skills (something to which I can relate!) was 
not nerdiness but justified arrogance: "Our Severus, he doesn't suck 
up to *anybody*". 

And he liked them because they like him, the first people who ever 
did.

I imagine that first they left school and were at the beginning of 
their adult lives, then they joined the Death Eaters, then Severus 
met Lucius through the Death Eater connection.

I imagine that the Death Eaters don't have a PO Box to which to mail 
one's application for membership: one must be recruited by someone 
who is already a member. When I try to imagine how this lot were 
recruited, partly it depends on just how loathsome is Severus: if he 
enjoys venting some of his endless rage against the world by helping 
his friend beat some old Muggle to death, I can't even think about 
this story, so I have to think that he has *some* conscience.   

So I was thinking, maybe Rozier and Wilkes got to know Crabbe pere 
and Goyle pere, and one time they have a few drinks together (a few 
too many drinks) and the four of 'em ended up beating a frail elderly 
wizard or gang-raping a pretty young witch, in a scenario that begins 
with the four louts heckling the old man/pretty girl, who tells them 
that they're a bunch of drunken louts. They became quite angry at 
having been so insulted by a Mudblood and start in with the violence. 
When finished with the violence, they realize that their victim could 
testify against them, causing them to be convicted of assault and 
battery or rape, so they kill the victim to prevent testimony.

Not that they've gone anything to clear the scene of their finger 
prints, thought prints, warm scarves with nametags sewn in, etc. But 
there are Death Eaters among the trusted employees of the Department 
of Magical Law Enforcement, who can destroy evidence and lose paper 
trails that point to Death Eaters -- or sometimes create evidence and 
paper trails to point to Light Side activists -- which leads to a 
Death Eater recruiting agent approaching Wilkes and Rozier: "It could 
be arranged for the Ministry to forget that it knows all about that 
old man / girl you killed... but only if you swear total and eternal 
obedience to Lord Voldemort..." 

They might hesitate and ask questions: "What is You-Kno -- I mean, 
his Lordship, going to make us do, like is he going to order us to 
give up drinking?" but the answer is "What does it matter? You 
can't drink in Azkaban." They figure they really have no choice, but 
once they're in, they quite enjoy it. They enjoy killing people, and 
Death Eating is the only way they would ever get invited into Malfoy 
Manor. They recruit their whole clique, except the whole clique is a 
little nervous about approaching Severus on the subject, but they 
realise that his intelligence and Potions would be a valuable asset. 
In fact, he is a valuable asset even without being recruited, as 
they ask him questions about Curses and other aspects of Dark Arts. 
He is glad to lecture on a subject in which he is so interested, 
he is glad to have his friends actually listen to him, he is 
glad that they say Thank You to him, he never stops to wonder why 
they want to know. 

Lucius tells them to bring Severus to one of the meetings that Lucius 
runs, without telling him what it is a meeting of. Lucius turns on 
the charm and engages Severus in a discussion of Dark Arts. Severus 
completely falls in love with 1) Lucius's library, and 2) Lucius (who 
has good looks, elegance, self-confidence, high social standing). 
Lucius seduces Severus into the Death Eaters by smiling at him a few 
times and letting him run loose in that library. No sex occurs, no 
sex is spoken of, Severus never admits to himself that there is 
anything sexual in his feelings about Lucius, Lucius knows perfectly 
well what buttons he is pushing to manipulate this boy. Thus, Severus 
joins the Death Eaters (and get marked) without realizing what he's 
doing until he participates in his first murder. Which disgusts him 
at the time and gives him nightmares ever after (altho' soldiers get 
used to it!), so he turns himself in.

This is of course an entirely different plot line from the one in 
which he was raised from birth (or earlier) to serve Lord V.






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