[HPforGrownups] James' Father - was (Re: Lily and Petunia Riddle)

[Snuffles Macgoo]

No: HPFGUIDX 2204


but what you see is your heart's desire - not the truth (what ever that is) 
I don't think Harry's fantseys include Vodemort/Tom Riddle Snr/Riddle Family 
as close family members

Or at least I hope not :-)

storm

----Original Message Follows----
From: "milz " <absinthe at mad.scientist.com>
Reply-To: HPforGrownups at egroups.com
To: HPforGrownups at egroups.com
Subject: [HPforGrownups] James' Father - was (Re: Lily and Petunia Riddle)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 01:21:42 -0000

In the first book, it mentions that Harry saw one of his grandfathers
sitting in a chair (or something like that) while looking at the
Mirror of Erised.

--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Scott " <harry_potter00 at y...>
wrote:
 > Incredibly short post coming....
 >
 > Then wouldn't Harry of seen Grandaddy V. in the Mirror of Erised?
 >
 > Scott
 >
 >
 > --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, eliasheldon at i... wrote:
 > > Hey - here's an interesting theory that just occured to me:
 > >
 > > What if Tom Riddle (Voldy) is the father of James Potter?
 > >
 > >  - wait, this couldn't happen, one might argue, and point out the
 > > dates and ages
 > >  - but - one thing we must remember is something that was said in
 > > PoA, and I am paraphrasing:  many witches and wizards have messed
 > up
 > > their lives with time manipulation.  Perhaps Tom Riddle was one
of
 > > them!
 > >  - Tom, James, and Harry all have that jet black hair - perhaps
 > that
 > > is one of the reasons JKR pointed that out....
 > >  - we know nothing of James' or Lily's parentage, so this is a
 > theory
 > > about how James' could have been affected by time manipulation
 > >  - this would give us a good sense as to the motivation of Voldy
to
 > > kill Harry - maybe the Trelawny prophesy was that Voldy's
grandson
 > > would be his undoing?
 > >
 > > This whole time manipulation thing will probably come up again....
 > >
 > > Thoughts?
 > >
 > >  - E
 > >
 > > --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer
 > > <linsenma at h...> wrote:
 > > > Hi --
 > > >
 > > > eggplant88 at h... wrote:
 > > >
 > > > > "Sister Mary Lunatic" <klaatu at p...> wrote:
 > > > >
 > > > > > Lily and Petunia Riddle?  Not feasible for another reason
 > > besides
 > > > > age
 > > > >
 > > > > Huh? why is age a problem?
 > > >
 > > > Because Tom Riddle Sr. was killed in roughly 1943.  If Lily was
 > > alive in
 > > > 1943, she had Harry at age 37.   This doesn't *really* square
 > with
 > > the
 > > > "young" woman who came out of the wand in GoF.  I don't
subscribe
 > > to the
 > > > theory that James & Lily definitely had Harry within a year or
 > two
 > > after
 > > > leaving Hogwarts themselves.  I think they had this important
 > > occupation
 > > > (whatever it was) for several years at least.  I would peg them
 > as
 > > being
 > > > mid to late 20s when they had Harry.
 > > >
 > > > > He shunned his wife not his son, he might not even have known
 > he
 > > had
 > > > > a son.
 > > >
 > > > He said in CoS that his father abandoned his mother before he
was
 > > even
 > > > born -- because she was a witch.  You could be right - he might
 > not
 > > know
 > > > he had a son.  But, if he sired another "witch" (Lily), he
*sure*
 > > > wouldn't be proud of her.
 > > >
 > > > Penny
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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