GoF timing

[xerxes909 at excite.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 2235

--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Sam  Brown" <find_sam at h...> wrote:
> <<And then how long did it take Dumbledore to realize that 
> Harry had been carted off by the fake Moody? To me it doesn't seem 
> like this whole last bit of Voldy and then Moody could have taken 
> much longer than half an hour. Perhaps 3/4 hour.>>
> 
> Dumbledore realised that Moody was an impostor as soon as he 
> (Dumbledore) saw Moody take Harry away. Dumbledore explained to 
Harry 
> something along the lines of : 'I knew he was fake when he took you 
> away from the crowds, which were safe' or something like that. The 
> time it took for Moody to 'reveal' himself to Harry was probably 
> Dumbledore rounding up Snape and McGonagall (as all three of them 
> appeared in the Foe-Glass).


Hmmmm....I'm not certain I'd agree with that completely. I'll have to 
go back and re-read the section again, but the way I interpreted the 
events was...Harry comes back in a terrible state with Cedric's body. 
Dumbledore gets distracted by Fudge regarding Cedric's body and 
Cedric's parents, but he insists that Harry stay where he is when 
Moody talks about taking him to the hospital wing. Moody then takes 
Harry anyway behind Dumbledore's back. When Dumbledore turns around 
again, he sees Harry and Moody gone...finally realises what must have 
happened...whereupon he quickly grabs Snape and McGonagall to assist 
him and makes his way back to the castle after Harry. Therefore he 
only knows what's happening AFTER Harry and Moody have gone missing.



> 
> Judy, you also pose an interesting question: DID anyone know 
anything 
> was wrong before Harry returned with Cedric's dead body? I don't 
have 
> GoF on hand so I can't check, but I believe that when Harry 
returned 
> there was a definite atmosphere of unsettlement at Hogwarts. 


There was unsettlement, but was it happening prior to Harry's 
arrival, or _due to_ Harry's arrival?


> People 
> knew something had gone wrong, but they didn't realise quite how 
> wrong things had gone. Remember when Harry returned with Cedric 
dead 
> people were absolutely shocked, as you would be.
> 
> Remember that Sirius had been expecting something like this to 
> happen, so although the nature of Harry's kidnap and return was a 
> shock to him, the fact that Harry was temporarily kidnapped was 
not. 
> So the moment Harry disappeared Dumbledore (being in contact with 
> Sirius) probably would have gotten worried.


I agree that both Sirius and Dumbledore had been expecting something 
to happen, but I'm still not certain as to whether Harry was known to 
be missing at that point or not. The whole Voldy incident couldn't 
have taken longer than 20-30 minutes. 

Now signals had been sent up a couple of times prior to that for 
assistance IIRC. Perhaps that had alerted Dumbledore?

judy