Ron Week: More Questions

[Ebony AKA AngieJ]

No: HPFGUIDX 16209

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Andrea <ra_1013 at y...> wrote:
> --- Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer <pennylin at s...>
> wrote:
> > Moody (granted Crouch-as-Moody) declined to extend
> > Ron the compliment he
> > so obviously wanted: he wanted to be told that he
> > too had the makings of
> > an auror.  He never got that recognition -- and I
> > think alot of that has
> > to do with his propensity to make impetuous
> > decisions & arguments.
> 
> Maybe because Crouch recognized that Ron really *did*
> have the makings of a great Auror and wanted to
> squelch any possible thoughts of going in that
> direction by specifically telling H&H they'd make good
> Aurors in his presence and then not telling Ron the
> same thing.  Remember, many of Moody's
> supposedly-supportive actions are actually very
> devious when looking back with the knowledge of his
> true identity. (ie, supporting Neville by telling him
> he was good in Herbology, when it was really just an
> excuse to plant the book for Harry)


This argument's only good if you believe that Crouch-as-Moody was not 
acting for all intents and purposes, a lot like the real Moody would 
act.  We've had this discussion before on list.  Many of us feel that 
Crouch would have had to act almost exactly like Moody to avoid 
detection.

So, what you're saying is that Crouch-as-Moody's intent is to 
discourage Ron from becoming an Auror because he'd be good at it?

What qualities makes up a good Auror?


> > He's vulnerable to the Imperius Curse
> > -- something else
> > that I think JKR subtly highlights in GoF. 
> 
> As I recall, Harry was the only one who was able to
> successfully fight off the curse.  Ron was hardly
> alone in that regard.  I *have* wondered, though, why
> Moody/Crouch would teach Harry how to fight off the
> curse?
> 

See above.  The Crouch-as-Moody plot is something we've picked 
apart... and one issue that many members have cited as being a reason 
why PoA is their favorite book and not GoF.  The Not!Moody revelation 
really came out of the blue, with very few clues.

Although it's not Potter Week yet, I'd like to note that the first 
time Harry made me scratch my head in GoF was when he fought off that 
curse.


> > He seems
> > a bit too ready to
> > judge people based on preconceived notions -- giants
> > & house-elves for
> > example.  
> 
> Harry and Hermione didn't grow up in wizard families
> and therefore don't have the usual prejudices.  If H&H
> had been talking to Neville or Seamus, for example,
> the conversation might've gone much the same way.
> 

Growing up in an environment that is filled with prejudice does *not* 
absolve you from the responsibility to denounce it in all its forms.

--Ebony AKA AngieJ