UnFunny Things; Perspective; Chapter 37 Comments - LONG

[clairey at airy-fairy.co.uk]

No: HPFGUIDX 16299

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., catherine at c... wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., heidi.h.tandy.c92 at a... wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Haggridd" <jkusalavagemd at y...> wrote:
> > > I entirely agree with Naama.  In the canon there is precious 
> little 
> > > about Draco Malfoy that is good.  I can recall no saving 
graces, 
> > and 
> > > no setup foreshadowong any manner of redemption.  This is in 
> > > contradistinction to many fanfics, where speculation is rife.  
I 
> do 
> > > feel that some of the posters have been mixing apples with 
> oranges, 
> > so 
> > > to speak.  I would be very interested in any citation in the 
JKR 
> > books 
> > > to the contrary.
> Heidi wrote:
> > There are citations to the books. They are veiled and subtle, but 
> > there are places in the books that have been published to date 
> which 
> > would support JKR if she does decide to have a manner of 
redemption 
> > for Draco in future books. 
> > 
> 
> > 2. It is *arguable* that when he saw Hermione in the woods at the 
> > World Cup, he was actually trying to warn her to get out of the 
way 
> > of the Death Eaters. It's about as arguable and as supported by 
> canon 
> > evidence as any conclusion that Hermione likes Ron is. 
> 
> <bg> I think we're going to have to agree to differ on that one.
> 
> > 4. Professor Snape seems to trust him. In book 4, Snape accepts 
> > Malfoy's statement about what happened when he & harry were 
trying 
> to 
> > curse each other. *IF* you believe that Snape has Dumbledore and 
> the 
> > Old Crowd's best interests at heart, it is possible that he would 
> > support a completely evil and unredeemable Draco, in the interest 
> of 
> > getting Draco to change his ways and be on Snape's side, but it 
is 
> > equally probable that Snape does not see Draco as being 
completely 
> > evil and unredeemable *at this point*. If he's not unredeemable, 
> then 
> > it is possible that redemption and a turning away from Lucius and 
> the 
> > Death Eaters (tm) will happen in the future.
> 
> I see this two ways.  One, that Snape truly believed that Lucius 
> Malfoy wasn't a DE, and was just favouring Draco because he is in 
> Slytherin.  Entirely plausible by the sudden start (or whatever) he 
> gives when Harry lists Malfoy as among those who went back to 
> Voldemort.
> Another alternative, depending on some far-sightedness of Snape, 
and 
> perhaps Dumbledore, is that Snape knew that at some point he would 
be 
> returning to Voldemort as a spy for Dumbledore, and wanted the 
> Malfoys to believe that he was still on the "dark side" by still 
> favouring the Slytherins - every little detail helps in a situation 
> like this.
> Finally, does Snape trust Malfoy?  He certainly favours him, but 
this 
> seem to me to be more as a way of disfavouring the Gryffindors and 
> making them suffer.  Therefore, not purely for Malfoy's benefit.
> 
> Catherine
> Btw: I agree with you. I couldn't be a prosecutor either.



*new girl* kinda young (13) but i think i can handle this list!


I think Snape believed Draco's version of events mainly because he 
would rather believe it than Harry's version, due to his immense 
dislike of Harry and his father.


ok.....I'm not writing much now, just want to check up on previous 
posts, see what i missed.....  :)