[HPforGrownups] The Ron/Harry Fight; Ron's Prejudice; Percy; & a smidge of ADMIN

[Capn Kathy AKA Elanor Gamgee]

No: HPFGUIDX 16830

Penny wrote: 
>RON/HARRY FIGHT -- I just wanted to add a big "Me
>too" to the thought that Arabella originally voiced
>about how the portrayal of Ron in the common room 
>(the night he disrupted the conversation between
>Harry &Sirius) is meant to awaken our sympathies.  

Me three, Arabella!  (And Penny, this just goes to
show that we do still agree on something now and then.
 Just when I think it will never happen, something
comes up that we agree on <g>).

Penny wrote:
>Well, I do think Ron is more than just explaining
>that this is what most wizards think about these
>topics.  He's more than an objective >mouthpiece. 
"Get away from me, werewolf!"  

This particular scene has often been used as a an
example of Ron's prejudiced nature, but I really think
that argument takes it out of context.  He's just
discovered what he thinks the be the horrible
"truth"--not that Lupin is a werewolf, but that he
betrayed Ron's best friend.  We've already seen how he
reacts when his friends or family are attacked--it
would be out of character for Ron to treat Lupin in
any other way at this point in the scene, IMO.  I
realize that other examples have been tossed around,
and I won't address them here, because I essentially
agree with Rosmerta's post saying how Ron is the
"mouthpiece" of the wizarding world in those
instances.  Yes, he has preconceived notions.  We all
do.  He's human.  He's 14.  He's learning, just like
Harry and Hermione are.

Penny wrote:
>Conversely, no one has yet commented on my ... >ahem
.... *brilliant*(IMHO) analysis of why Harry >clearly
would not favor either of his best friends >over the
other.  Sigh.  Oh well.  I'll just assume >I'm right. 


:)  Well, it probably won't surprise you that I
completely disagreed with it, but I figured there
wasn't much point in going back over arguments we've
been through a million times before.  So there's that
reason for not getting a response too--the "I know
what my opinion is and I'm ready to talk about
something else" reason.

Although it can be a lot of fun when new members bring
up previously discussed topics again, because you get
an infusion of new ideas and arguments.  And that's
what makes this list so much fun in the first place.  

:)
Cap'n Kathy
AKA Elanor Gamgee

=====

"What can I say to people who insist on being that thick?

--Hermione, to Gwen

from HQOW, Year 4 by Arabella


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