Draco and Lucius

[heidit at netbox.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 16897

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Magda Grantwich <mgrantwich at y...> wrote:
> >>Voldemort strikes me as distinctly being the type 
> >>to demand loyalty to
> >> himself above all others, family included.
>  
> 
> I agree with this. 
> 
> 
> > Now that I don't see.  I can't see Lucius Malfoy putting 
Voldemort 
> > above Draco.  I know some people see it that way but I don't. 
>  
> 
> Lucius loves his dear little creep, uh, I mean, little boy just like
> any dad does.  Draco certainly doesn't seem to be afraid of him and
> feels free to ask him questions and whines about presents 
anticipated
> in public places.  

I have to disagree with this (what? you're surprised?) - We've seen 
*3* scenes in the book where Draco & Lucius interact - in Mr Borgin's 
shop, in FLourish & Blotts and at the Quidditch World Cup.
In Mr Borgin's, Lucius criticizes Draco in front of Mr Borgin, and at 
that point, Draco shuts up completely (for a bit) - and it's possible 
that neither of them consider Mr Borgin to be the "public" - he's 
just a storekeeper. Of course, *they* don't know that he's saying 
nasty things about Lucius behind his back.
In Flourish & Blotts, Draco doesn't say anything while Lucius is 
nearby. He does before, but not during.
In the Top Box, Draco does not have *one* line of dialogue. He smirks 
a bit, but he just sits between his parents, no friends hanging out 
with him, and doesn't say anything. 

Behind his back, Draco says praiseworthy things, says he's going to 
ask about this, and demand that, but the closest he comes to actually 
*asking* for anything is the statement at Mr Borgin's, that he 
thought they were going to look at racing brooms. I really don't see 
that one sentence as enough of a basis for a conclusion that draco 
isn't afraid of him. 

> 
> On the other hand, Lucius is probably dumb enough to believe that he
> can somehow have his cake and eat it too, that he will be able to 
get
> around Lord V. and promote his family interests during the coming
> days of Dark Victory.
Oh, I think this is probably true, too. Lucius strikes me as the type 
who doesn't want Voldemort to control Draco. That's his sport, not 
anyone else's