[HPforGrownups]Toasting Cedric
Tandy, Heidi
heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu
Tue Apr 17 19:24:02 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 17032
Morag Traynor wrote
> 2. Dumbledore knows what to overlook and when. For
> instance, I think he
> knows perfectly well that some of the Slytherins are not
> joining in the
> toast to Cedric Diggory in the leaving feast, but also knows
> this is not the
> time for a confrontation.
Canon says that everyone did stand when Dumbledore toasted Diggory, even the
slytherins. What some of the slytherins did *not* do was toast Harry.
>
> My personal response to the points raised in the article is
> "so what?" Show
> me a classic of children's (or any other) literature where
> our hero or
> heroine wins out by trusting adults to make all the decisions, strict
> adherence to rules and regulations and never, ever conceals
> anything and
> I'll show you a *very* dull book.
Now I'm verging offtopic, and if anyone wants to discuss Children's Books
>From The Mid 1900's, please join me on HP-OT-Chatter...I've been rereading
old Bobbsey Twins books recently, and oh my goodness, those children in the
first round of books (I believe they are vintage 1900, and a description can
be found at http://pw2.netcom.com/~drmike99/bobbsey.html) trusted the adults
to make all the decisions, but even the good kids - Nan and Bert, the older
twins, especially, didn't have strict adherence to the rules if asking to go
outside the bounds was beneficial (plus, they were really racist, but it was
1900, so what can you do?). And compared to most any book published these
days, they really were *very* dull books.
>
> Even Little Women (one of the preachiest books ever written -
> and still
> actually read) contains this immortal exchange:
> Amy: I hate unladylike behaviour.
> Jo: And I hate affected, niminy-piminy chits!
> Way to go, Jo.
And I still want to learn where I can order pickled limes on the internet!
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