Lupin's Patronus, Patroni speculations

Milz absinthe at mad.scientist.com
Fri Apr 20 16:16:01 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 17235

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "H H" <little_frog at k...> wrote:
> > Milz wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > >Thanks. I have a long-shot theory that might tie together the 
Patronus
> > >and the Animagus animal form. Both might be animal manifestations 
of
> > >your innner-self or your "spirit guide". So for James and Harry 
it's a
> > >stag. Sirius its a dog. McGonagall it's a cat.
> > >
> > >Any thoughts?
> > 
> > Nice.  I have two quibbles:
> > 1.  What if (like most wizards) you're not an animagus?
> > 2.  Lupin says the patronus is "unique to the wizard that conjures 
it",
> >     so James and Harry can't have the same one.  And we don't know 
that
> >     if Harry became an animagus (and hasn't JKR said he won't?) he
> >     would be a stag.
> > 
> > I do like the idea of Rita Skeeter's patronus being a beetle, 
though! :)
> 
> I don't think that you have to be an animagus to have an "animal 
guide" (as Milz put it).  Many cultures believe that each person is 
identified with a particular animal.  And even among my friends, we 
each seem to have a favorite animal that we feel very close to.  
(Mine's a frog.  Go figure.)  Anyway, back OT, I think that it is 
highly likely that *if* your patronus were to take on animal form, it 
would be an animal that you shared traits with.  I think Dumbledore 
would be a pheonix or possibly an owl.  Cedric would be something 
brave, loyal, and kindly - (a golden retriever or dolphin?).  But, I 
don't think that there is any reason to believe that a patronus would 
have to be an animal - I think there have been some excellent 
arguments for Lupin's patronus being clouds or mist.  And as far as 
Harry's - I don't think it was just any stag.  I think it was James as 
a stag.  And how more unique can you get?!?

----

You stated it better than I could have. Harry's Patronus was Prongs. 
Maybe James' was just a stag. I think if I had a Patronus or if I was 
an animaga(?--my Latin's rusty), it would be a cat, particularly a 
gray cat. I seem to be a cat magnet and I get along better with dark 
colored cats than with light colored ones.

I can see Dumbledore as having a phoenix or some type of majestic bird 
as a patronus.

Which leads me to my next speculation (most likely it will be wrong). 
What if the 'Order of the Phoenix' are wizards or witches who are 
either phoenix animagi or have phoenix patroni? But then, Harry won't 
be able to join....

:-)Milz





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