Who killed J&L

Kristin Alyeskakc at aol.com
Fri Apr 20 19:05:30 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 17264

Steve wrote:

> Using the reverse spells coming out of the wand, then, we can 
> literally recreate the events of October 31, 1981, at midnight. And 
> when we do that, we see that Harry's parents were killed (in which 
> ever order, doesn't matter) AFTER Voldemort was already hit by his 
> own spell and reduced to a noncorporeal state. He therefore could
> NOT have cast the spells that killed Lily and James, although his 
> wand was obviously used for those murders.

Where do you get the idea that Voldemort was destroyed before James 
and Lily were killed? In PoA when Harry is first learning how to do 
the patronus he starts remembering more of what happened that night. 
(Starting on pg. 239 PoA US ver.) James tells Lily to run and take 
Harry while he holds "Him" off, then he here's stumbling. More than 
likely James falling after Voldemort killed him. Harry then hears his 
mom pleading with Voldy She was shielding Harry so then she would 
have been the next one killed by Voldy. When he then tried to kill 
Harry the curse backfired and bounced off Harry back onto Voldemort 
although not powerful enough to completely kill him just reduce him 
to a mere shadow.

As for the wand's reverse spell. Dumbledore says in GoF (pg. 697 US) 
that it "is a kind of reverse echo. A shawdow of the living Cedric 
would have emerged from the wand..."  The last murders the wand 
performed would appear in reverse order. So if they are only echos of 
what actually happened then one could assume that the AV spell 
wouldn't been seen just the end result.

Cheers,

Kristin





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