HRH die/date? - MOM - Lupin - Snape - Draco - watches

[Amy Z]

No: HPFGUIDX 17346

Morag wrote:

>JKR has often said Hermione is based on herself as a girl, or at any 
rate has much in common
>with her.  Someone pointed out that that's one reason Hermione won't 
die (I
>agree).  Perhaps it's also one reason Hermione won't be other than a 
friend
>to Harry.  Not that I want to get into the whole shipping thing...

Interesting.  JKR has also talked about Harry as her fictional son, so 
the whole thing would be downright incestuous.

However, before the R/Hers start setting off fireworks from the poop 
deck, Ron is also drawn from a friend of hers, so if she has the same 
qualms as LMA, she might not want to put Ron and Hermione together 
either . . .

Florence wrote:

>I've always thought that the Misistry of Magic was not very 
functional
>during the Voldemort years - either by mass infiltration or multiple
>deaths or whatever.

"Imagine that Voldemort's powerful now.  You don't know who his 
supporters are, you don't know who's working for him and who isn't . . 
. . Every week, news comes of more deaths, more disappearances, more 
torturing . . . the Ministry of Magic's in disarray, they don't know 
what to do . . . ." --Sirius, Gf 27.

>Marianne, with full knowledge that she's no athlete. 

Ah, but you haven't tried Quidditch yet, have you--you never know!

A few weeks ago, I sent my sister FB and QTA for her birthday (she's 
read all the novels).  I got a very nice note back saying that she was 
going to take up Quidditch just as soon as she learned how to fly.

Marianne wrote:

>Remus is hesitant to reveal to Harry that 
>he was a friend of both James and Sirius.  It's all very cautious.

Perhaps one reason he doesn't tell Harry he knew his parents is that 
he is afraid the next question will be (as indeed it is): "so you knew 
Sirius Black, too?" which is a very uncomfortable subject at the 
moment.  Harry doesn't know until Christmas that his dad and Black 
were friends, but Lupin may not know he doesn't know.  Lupin might, 
IOW, be motivated less by a desire to keep at arms' length from Harry 
(don't tell him I was close friends with his dad) than by a desire not 
to be associated with Black (don't tell him I was close friends with 
the man who's trying to kill him).

Steve wrote:

>You could even make a case for the fact that he didn't hear his 
>father at all, but someone else. After all, when he tells Lupin that 
>he hears his father, Lupin gives him a peculiar look. He's never 
>actually heard his father's voice at that time. Was his father even 
>there? What does Lupin know about that incident that makes him 
>suprised at Harry's interpretation of what he hears? Was it someone 
>else having taken Polyjuice Potion? Was LUPIN there? Whoa!

Is Lupin perhaps HARRY'S FATHER?  (Lupin begins to breathe heavily and 
James Earl Jones's voice emerges from his lips...)  No, please, tell 
me it's a bad dream!

Catlady wrote:

>I wouldn't put it past Snape to poison one of the
>students, altho' I *think* he would have a supply of antidote right
>there in his hand when he did it.

Me either.  I think he would get a very big kick out of making Harry 
take poison and letting him go right to the brink before getting the 
antidote.  And being disappointed if Harry's own antidote actually 
worked and Snape's wasn't necessary.  Good thing Colin came in when he 
did.

Catlady again:

>Incidentally, one thing I have been wondering lately is whether
>Karkaroff will try to come back to Hogwarts seeking protection from
>Voldemort trying to kill him.

Interesting--why *did* Karkaroff flee, when Hogwarts was probably the 
best place on earth for him to be safe from Voldemort?  Why didn't he 
run to Dumbledore and beg for his protection?  Is he being honorable 
(not wanting to endanger Hogwarts by his presence) or foolish, or does 
he perhaps know of somewhere he might be able to hide from V?

Magda wrote re: Snape:

>He doesn't believe <snip> that you can appeal to a child's conscience 
(although he and Lupin
>say pretty much the same thing in PoA after Harry gets caught being
>off the grounds, he ensures that his warning has no effect by
>taunting Harry and getting his back up)

Great thoughts on Snape, Magda.  (I don't see him as asexual, but I'll 
leave that one be.)

I meant to respond some time ago to whoever pointed out that Lupin and 
Snape say much the same thing to Harry (genius--please step forward 
for your bow!) and the subsequent remark that Harry reacts totally 
differently because of his respect for Lupin and lack thereof for 
Snape.  I think that that's part of it, but there's more to it than 
that.  Snape and Lupin both say "we're trying to protect you and 
you're putting yourself in danger," and they both speak of his father, 
but there the similarity ends.  Snape uses the opportunity to say that 
Harry is arrogant like his father.  Lupin invokes Harry's parents not 
as arrogant jerks, but as the first people who would want him to be 
safe.  Harry feels so rotten afterwards, IMO, partly because (1) he IS 
being reckless and making trouble for everyone, (2) he respects Lupin 
and wants his respect, but most of all (3) his behavior is "a poor way 
to repay" his parents, as Lupin says, especially now that he is 
all-too-aware what their sacrifice meant, having heard their terror.  
Good old-fashioned guilt.  As Magda says, Lupin knows how to appeal to 
his conscience.  Harry might be prevailed upon to feel guilty that 
"everyone from the Minister for Magic downwards" is trying to keep him 
safe despite himself, but what works a lot better is pointing out to 
him that the people he cares about most are doing so or have done so. 
 Dumbledore, Hagrid, or Lupin himself would be good examples; his own 
parents are the most pointed.

Dinah, your theory that Snape was at the "rebirthing party" gave me a 
major case of the creeps.  

Catherine wrote:

>I thought that Voldemort had gone through everyone who was there.

No, it does specifically say that he passed some over in GF 33 (JKR 
cleverly leaves the total number very vague).  And they were hooded 
and masked, so Harry only knows the ones V identified.

Rita the Lady of Cats wrote:

>In SS, Ron tells Harry that Lucius disowned V immediately that he was
>out of power, that Lucius claimed he had been bewitched by V, and 
that
>Arthur doesn't believe that claim. Apparently Fudge does believe it, 
and
>I like to believe that Severus is deluded into believing it by his 
own
>wishful thinking.

Why is Snape wishful of Lucius's being a good guy?  Fudge, of course, 
is a bit snobbish toward Muggles himself (I'll withhold judgment on 
whether he's actually sympathetic to the Pureblood cause) and is 
inclined to think well of people who have lots of money to donate.  
But why would Snape want to believe that LM was under the Imperius?

Catlady again:

>Amy Z already quoted that Draco reacted strongly to the Dementors:
>"That little git," [George] said calmly.  "He wasn't so cocky last 
night
>when the Dementors were down our end of the train.  Came running into
>our compartment, didn't he, Fred?"
>"Nearly wet himself," said Fred, with a contemptuous glance at 
Malfoy."
>But has anyone yet suggested that Draco reacted strongly not because 
of
>being a coward but because of having horrors in HIS past? 

For the record, I don't think Draco is a coward--certainly not based 
on his fear of Dementors.  I quoted this to show that G&F can be very 
kind and supportive of Harry, not to dis Draco.

Lea wrote:

>Oh yes, please! I´m desperately waiting for your clocks and watches 
>thing! 
>
>BTW, I don´t  seem to remember a single "normal" clock or watch ever 
>to come up in the books...

We all know Steve is very shy ::snort:: so I will plug the Lexicon for 
him.  There's a whole section on watches there--check it out!

http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon

Harry does have a regular watch.  He checks it in CS while they're 
Crabbe and Goyle; he checks it in the lake in GF, when he again has 
one hour allotted, but (surprise) it's stopped.  I would've gotten one 
like the Weasleys' clocks, myself, but a regular 1-12 watch does come 
in useful.

Amy Z
who used to have a phases of the moon watch and really, really wants 
another one (bet Lupin has one)

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   "Ha, ha, ha," said Hermione sarcastically.  "Goblins 
 don't need protection.  Haven't you been listening to 
 what Professor Binns has been telling us about goblin 
 rebellions?"
   "No," said Harry and Ron together.
                          -HP and the Goblet of Fire 
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