Dragging Harry in through the Back Door

[catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk]

No: HPFGUIDX 17527

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Magda Grantwich <mgrantwich at y...> wrote:
> > Well, I can't think of any "best" off the top of my head.  But 
> > the "worst" that sticks out in my mind was in GoF chapter 18.  It
> > was right after Draco and Harry fought in the hall, and Hermione's
> > teeth got all really big, and Snape insulted her then took the 
> > points from Gryffindor.  Harry, in a very bad place right then, 
> > fantasized (more forgivably) beating Snape with his cauldron, and 
> > thought "If only he 
> > knew how to do the Cruciatus Curse
he'd have Snape on his back 
like
> > that spider, jerking and twitching
"   That bothered me.  
> 
> 
> I agree.  That was interesting because it showed the depth of his
> feeling.  Of course, he was still estranged from Ron at that point;
> normally they would have shared their feelings and perhaps diluted
> them in the process but keeping them bottled up inside is obviously
> not good for Harry.
> 
> I did wonder if this is a foreshadowing of a choice Harry will make
> in the future.  We discuss quite often whether this or that 
character
> will join Lord V. but not much time is given to reasons they would. 
> If Lord V. offers them something they could get nowhere else, then
> the attraction might be irrisistable.  If Lord V. offered Harry the
> chance to torture Snape - with impunity and approval - how would he
> react?
> 
I don't buy this.  As has been stated by Doreen in a previous post - 
most children/adolescents at some time or another fantasise about 
killing/hurting someone they feel hatred for. It is all part of the 
overemotional adolescent years.  
What I really want to say though, is that there is absolutely no way 
that Harry would take approval from Voldemort as meaning he had 
authority/approval to do anything.  It would have to be something 
with much more meaning.  For instance, I can see Harry torturing 
Snape if it were to stop Voldemort killing someone - anyone.
I also think that GoF was moving towards a shift in the Snape/Harry 
relationship, and that Harry is already looking at him in a slightly 
more ambivalent way.

BTW, Jen, I think it was, was bemoaning the fact that we are not 
discussing Harry enough.   I agree with this - I posted a couple of 
things in response to someone saying that Harry has only escaped 
Voldemort by luck so far etc. etc., and cited his strengths in doing 
so blah blah - but no response.  Has everyone here gone Snape crazy, 
or what?!!

Catherine