Psychic link/power revisited

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No: HPFGUIDX 17567

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., aprilgc at i... wrote:
> I wonder if Harry has some kind of "mind control" ability, perhaps 
also 
> "inherited" from V. (as Parseltongue was).  I just got finished 
> listening to GoF again, and my feeling got stronger -- except now 
I've 
> narrowed it down to Harry as the power source.


I personally enjoy hearing these types of theories.  I believe there 
are going to be little things, maybe such as "mind control", that 
will come up in later books.  Harry probably has more powers than we 
could possibly know. As far as "mind control", I will be honest and 
say that it never occured to me.  When I read the books again I will 
keep that theory in mind. It is possible, I guess.    

 
Snape makes 
> Harry empty his pockets. Harry says Ron bought the contents for 
him.  
> Ron rushes in and says, paraphrasing, "I bought the stuff for him."
> > 1. How did Ron know Harry got caught?
> > 2. How did he know they were in Snape's office?
> > 3. How did he know Snape had made Harry empty his pockets?
> > 4. How did he know Harry had said Ron bought the stuff (and not 
Hermione)?


'Harry!' Ron said, stumbling forward and staring hopelessly at the 
point where Harry had disappeared, 'you'd better run for it!  If 
Malfoy tells anyone - you'd better get back to the castle, quick-'

I think both Harry and Ron figured Malfoy would run to Snape.  So as 
Ron tells Harry, 'you'd better get back to the castle.'  They will be 
looking for him.  I'm sure when Ron got back to the castle he went 
looking for Harry and would naturally look for him in the dungeons.  
Maybe Ron had been standing outside for just a short period of time 
when Snape told Harry to empty his pockets.  Still, I do think it's 
possible there could have been some mind control involved.


> > Later, in the shrieking shack, when they all blast Snape - could 
it have been Ron or Harry unconciously (for some reason I can't spell 
that today - several typos and it still doesn't look right :) 
transmitted his intent to the other two, and caused them to have the 
same response?  


This would be the best case for trying to prove Harry can use mind 
control.

   
> I think the link may have been there again, stronger in the 
compartment 
> on the train in GoF when they all blasted Malfoy - either Ron or 
Harry 
> decided to blast him, and transmitted the desire/direction to the 
rest 
> of them, so once again they act as one.


If Harry transmitted the desire to the rest of them, he would have 
had to been transmitting for some time.  The same goes for the scene 
in Snape's office.  Harry would have had to call (by mind) Ron to the 
office.  Harry would have had to call Fred and George to the train 
compartment.  I consider these two as the weaker of the example.  But 
if you leave Fred and George out of it then you do have Harry, 
Hermione, and Ron again testing their wands out at the same time. 

 
> > Could that be something else Harry got from V. (besides snake-
speech)?  V. was supposed to be really good at controlling people, 
wasn't he?

I would like to think Harry would have been a powerful wizard without 
the help of Voldemort.  Harry's eyes are still going to come into 
play and he got that from his mother.  Still, surely Voldemort passed 
on many of his abilities to Harry besides just being able to speak to 
snakes.


> Maybe it's just coincidence, but there seems to be a LOT of 
coincidence 
> of this nature:
> 
> GoF - Draco and Harry curse each other at "exactly the same time".
>     - Harry and Cedric stun the spider at "exactly the same time".
>     - Harry and V. utter their curses at "exactly the same time".
>     - The Trio, Fred & George on the train at "exactly the sane 
time".


It seems like they are just reacting to what is occuring at the same 
time.  For instance, even without mind control I am sure Cedric would 
has used his wand on the spider.  Draco/Harry and Harry/V...that just 
reminds be of the old Western shows where there is the standoff 
between the good guy and the bad.  They stare for awhile at each 
other and then draw.    

    
> What made me think of this again is the scene in the graveyard.  
When 
> V. wants to make Harry bow, I don't think he uttered a curse 
(correct 
> me if I'm wrong).  He ORDERED Harry to bow, and Harry felt is spine 
> curve
 

"I said, bow," Voldemort said, raising his wand___and Harry felt his 
spine curve....



'I think V.'s got "mind control", and Harry has it as well.

Again, I do think it's possible.  Voldemort does seem to have some 
type of ability to read minds or something along that line.  I 
personally think Snape and Dumbledore can do some mind thingys. 


> > Just another crackpot theory.  Any and all opinions welcome.


We'll just put your crackpot theory together with my Snape and 
Dumbledore theory!  We can shake hands when our brilliant theories 
end up being right !

I love reading far off ideas.  I have posted a few myself.

Koinonia