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--- In HPforGrownups at y..., catherine at c... wrote:

> The overall tone of your messages IS rude, IS snide, and is 
sarcastic  to boot.  You are talking down to people, and taking an 
> intellectual/acadamic highground which is unacceptable 
considering that you do not know the relevant backgrounds of 
those to whom you  address your messages.  

ANSWER:------------Here is a case of "damned if I do, damned if I 
don't." When I was on another HP board and just sort of casually 
posting thoughts and feelings and views on teh books, I was 
viciously attacked as being a narrow-minded, uneducated, 
illiterate, unthinking, ignorant jerk who had NO QUALIFICATIONS 
for making such statements. Now, I try to be a bit more academic 
and I'm condemned for being rude and taking a 
"intellectual/acadamic highground." No way to win. Interestingly, 
when HP fans use sarcasm it is acceptable, but when I use it I 
get accused of rudeness. Again, I cannot win.



> I refer to my previous question, which you have declined to 
>answer -  what do you expect to get out of this discussion? I 
>was sent an E-mail regarding teh discussion.

ANSWER: ----------Sorry, overlooked. I hope to get a better 
perspective of how others see my position, and how others are 
thinking about this issue. I am fascinated by other peerspectives 
and views and enjoy discussions so that I can myself grow in teh 
ability to articulate my beliefs, and at the same time understand 
how others think.


>One more comment.  I was brought up a Christian, have 
Christian  friends - even Born Agains, who are more fanatical in 
their beliefs.   However, they certainly wouldn't try and force their 
opinions on others in such a way as you do.  
ANSWER------- Please tell me how explaining my position, 
offering documentation to support it, and publishing a book on it 
for others to read (and then posting info in the Internet) is 
"FORCING" my views on people. I don't grab each person and 
take their money out of the wallet and make them buy the book. 
Interestingly, one can seem to say ANYTHING in this country as 
along as it fits with society popular view, but say something 
contrary and one gets accused of FORCING beliefs on people. 
Do you feel homosexuals "FORCE" their beliefs on you through 
TV shows and books advocating it as an alternative lifestyle??? If 
not, why not? I see a double-standard here.



>They certainly wouldn't talk down to anyone who did not share 
their beliefs.  You sound extremely angry  and intolerant to me - 
surely this is not a Christian attitude?

     Perhaps because what I'm saying is not what you want to 
hear. And I say that with no anger, just as an observation. Also, it 
seems abit odd that I would be accused of intolerance when I 
have nowhere said anyone -- including Rowling -- should n ot be 
allowed to openly express themselves and views. I just happen 
to disagree with those expressions and view. But you see, today, 
"intolerance" has been misdefined to mean not agreeing with 
what is popular. By the way I won a secular award for tolerance 
in America for my work on racism in 1997. Obviously, I am 
indeed tolerant, but perhaps it is all of you who are showing 
more levels of intolerance.

Cordially,

Richard Abanes