Pondering the details of Goblet (contents vary)

[mcandrew at bigpond.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 23441

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Haggridd" <jkusalavagemd at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., mcandrew at b... wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 1) Chap 30, The Pensieve.  (p. 524 UK ed) Harry, discussing the 
> > trials he has just been visiting, asks Dumbledore whether Crouch 
Jr 
> > was really involved in torturing the Longbottoms.  Dumble 
says 'As 
> to 
> > that, I have no idea.'  Why?  Dumbledore sat as a member of the 
> > Council of Magical Law which passed a guilty verdict on Crouch Jr 
> for 
> > exactly that crime.  Is Dumbledore saying he didn't agree with 
his 
> > own verdict as a member of that panel of judges?  If he wasn't 
sure 
> > of Crouch's guilt, why didn't he cast a dissenting vote?  Or has 
he 
> > changed his mind since?
> 
> >  - Lama -
> I think I can reconcile this matter.  Crouch, Sr addresses the jury 
on 
> the RIGHT side of the hall, who are those who vote to convict 
Crouch, 
> Jr.  Harry is on the LEFT side (pg. 513) and Dumbledore is next to 
him 
> (pg. 514) therefore also on the left.  Dumbleore was not on the 
jury 
> and had no vote to cast one way or the other.
> 
> Haggridd


I said 'dissenting vote', I probably should have said 'dissenting 
judgment'.  Dumbledore appeared to be sitting next to Crouch Sr on 
the bench with the other judges - not on the jury, I agree. And if he 
was sitting on the bench, it seems likely that he was more than just 
an observer.  I guess the jury would have to have the final say in a 
jury trial, but normally the judges would advise the jury as to the 
correct verdict, and maybe that's where Dumbledore should have spoken 
up. 

- Lama -