Same year, Draco, Sorting Hat, Knowledge, Trying to mend my carni vorous habit

[Tandy, Heidi]

No: HPFGUIDX 23530

Oh my, I look like Rita! :)

Am sorry to be a day late on these replies, but yesterday was my harry's 2nd
birthday, and the computer stayed OFF until he went to sleep, after his
birthday cake - at 10pm.
Birthday party will be this sunday (I *will* miss chat. Sorry!)

First is an admittedly off topic thing about merchandise, but I wanted to
reach the most people about this - Amazon has the collector's edition of SS
at
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/glance/-/outlet/043920352
X/ref%3Ddel%5F195525%5F7/002-0899231-9137620 marked down to $37.50, which is
50% off. 

1. Same year: there is nothing in canon which makes it mandatory that James
& Lily are in the same year. I'm working on a redo of Emma set in MWPP
times, and in that, they are not the same year. But then again, I'm one of
those who thinks that Lucius Malfoy is at least 10 years older than MWPP (hi
Gwen!) and a contemporary of Arthur Weasley.

> "Meg Rose" <megrose_13 at y...> wrote:
> > "Sofie Campbell" <sofie_elisabeth at y...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Am I the only person who thinks Lily was a Ravenclaw (though I
> > > made her a Gryffindor in my fic)? 
> > 
> > Yes - this would make sense, only because James and Lily were both 
> > head bog/girl, right?  Don't they have to be in different houses??
> > If James was in Gryffindor, then it would only make sense for Lily
> > to be in something different, hence Ravenclaw...
> 

2. David wrote:

> However, when we consider what Draco must think of Hermione, 
> the picture is rather more interesting.  She, who is inferior 
> to him in the respects he considers important, continually 
> beats him; his response is to try harder, yet he still fails. 
>  By GOF, her psychological mastery is nearly complete as she 
> can reduce him by saying 'Hello, Professor Moody', and 
> affects not to care about Rita Skeeter's article (but see 
> below).  He also discovers at the ball that she can look 
> stunning.  I think it is entirely possible that Draco's 
> desire to win may well take the form of attempted conquest of 
> her affections, though as his character stands, that would be 
> based on lust and the desire for mastery.  If he then fails 
> (as surely he must), he will resort either to violence and 
> hatred or to a comprehensive re-evaluation of his own 
> character and possible repentance. (This would be a little 
> bit Darcy-like, BTW.)
> 
> Has any fanfic explored this view of Draco?  

: jumps up and down and waves hand in air.
Two, actually. My novel-length WIP, Surfeit of Curses, explores a
relationship (FRIENDSHIP! NO ROMANCE!) between Draco & Hermione, and is
about to move further into the Shake Draco's Life To The Very Foundations
stage - you can find it at schnoogle.com, more specifically, at
http://www.schnoogle.com/authorLinks/Heidi/Surfeit_Of_Curses/.
And my homage to Pride & Prejudice, which features Hermione as Elizabeth,
Draco as Darcy and Snape as Lady Catherine, is at
http://www.astronomytower.org/authorLinks/Heidi/. 
The P&P one was inspired by learning that JKR is a huge Jane Austen fan, and
wondering whether she was going to try a Darcy with Draco - of course, I
admit that the huge difference is that Darcy was given good principles but
left to follow them in pride and conceit, whereas whatever principles
Draco's learned at home, I think we can all agree that at least a lot of
them were not "good" - quite the opposite, in fact. 

Jenny wrote:
> Draco has been blindly, for 
> the most part, agreeing with his father's views.  Draco, too, 
> needs to 
> learn to stand on his own.
Am in complete agreement with you...and I do hope it'll happen. I know some
people have hypothesized that JKR will *show* someone turning away from evil
by describing how Snape left the DE's, but I think it would be more powerful
and interesting to show someone like Draco turning from evil (and as a
coutnerpart, showing someone presumed to be good, or at least neutral,
turning to evil (No! not percy! please!)

3. Marcus - LOVE the sorting hat dialogue. Any interest in *captioning* it
and submitting it to TheDarkArts, part of FictionAlley
(http://www.thedarkarts.org/submit.html)

4.Gwen wrote:
> 
> Again, Poppy is in the unenviable position of not being very 
> key to any of
> these power plays. I believe Dumbledore sends her out for her own
> protection. The more any of the staff know about aiding and abetting
> fugitives, unofficial and indeed specifically unsanctioned 
> espionage, and
> conspiracy against the Ministry, the better.
Exactly - it's possible that in future books, the DEs will strive to get
information any way they can (esp. if some of their potential spies in
Hogwarts (i.e. Draco?) aren't as useful at giving information as they had
hoped) and may resort to torture to uncover it - of course, for someone like
Poppy, torturing her to get info about people's whereabouts may be as
productive as torturing Longbottoms to find out where Voldemort was - i.e.
if someone does not know, they will not be able to tell you what you want to
hear.  

5. List Carnivores - I probably fall as much into LOON territory as I do
into REST - I pretty try to much know canon backwards & forwards (although I
do slip up on occasion when my books aren't handy, confusing when Charlie
met harry with when Charlie's *friends* met Harry for a recent fanfic) but
the main reason I don't post as much as I used to here is not at all related
to fear of being jumped on and splinched - it's because I want other listies
who may not've gone through a subject nine and three quarters times to have
the enjoyment of running through the issues without an oldbie jumping in and
saying This is this, and that is that. Which is why I usually only jump up
on draco-topics :) (see next post from me). It's a weird coincidence that
this week, the mailing list I've been on the longest, Tongue in the Mail for
the band Crowded House (and variations thereof), turned 10, and is engaging
in some major soul-searching about the future of the list itself. I truly
hope that when we celebrate *our* 10th, we will have the same spirit of
intellectual curiousity that so many listies here have - to puzzle through
the books' mysteries in enjoyment and with Dumbledorian consideration
(Dorian? As in portrait of...? Maybe that's why he only looks like he's in
his late 80s!).