Eye Roll
cynthiaanncoe at home.com
cynthiaanncoe at home.com
Wed Aug 22 14:29:28 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 24698
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Amber ?" <inviziblegirl at h...> wrote:
>
> >From: prefectmarcus at y...
> >
> > > Amber said:
> > >
> > > > My biggest eye roll? At this exact line in GOF 33, pg658 USed:
> > > > "Now untie him, Wormtail, and give him back his wand."
> >
> >Well, I think it had to happen. Voldemort HAD to give Harry his
wand
> >back. Why?
> >
> >Because these guys have been living free of Voldemort for thirteen
> >years. They've gone on with their lives. Voldemort was a bad
dream
> >for at least some of them. Now he's back. He has GOT to show he
is
> >in control. He cannot show it by simply snuffing out Harry. What
> >does that prove? Nothing.
>
> And on some level, I do agree with you. As I said before in my
post, I see
> the logic in this. But the part still made me roll my eyes and
internally
> rage at Voldemort for making such a stupid mistake.
>
> I look at all the planning that went into capturing Harry. Mad-Eye
Moody
> being subdued, a *heck* of a lot of Polyjuice being made, Crouch
managing to
> fool everyone into believing he's Mad-Eye, the adding of Harry's
name to the
> Goblet, *months* of waiting until the Third Task, helping Harry to
make sure
> he does all right in the tournament, adding the spell that made the
> Triwizard Cup a portkey, and making sure that Harry isn't killed in
the
> maze. I mean, seriously, a lot of thought and effort went into
making sure
> everything went perfectly. The end result of it was to resurrect
Voldemort
> and presumably kill Harry. And instead of quickly killing him and
getting on
> with the whole "Taking Over The World" bit (I'm assuming that this
is
> Voldemort's goal), he decides that he needs to "impress" his
followers. He
> threw away all that planning and work. Incredibly shortsighted in
my
> opinion.
>
> If Voldemort was smart, he would've thought back to the times that
he's been
> thwarted by Harry. He would've thought "This kid had unbelievable
luck when
> it comes to me, I'm not taking any chances". If he had time to plan
a way to
> bring Harry to him, he had time to think about how he was going to
kill
> Harry. The goal is "get all the opposition out of the way",
not "impress my
> followers".
>
> If Voldemort really is such a powerful wizard and no one is equal
to him
> other than Voldemort, he doesn't NEED to worry about impressing his
> followers. He shouldn't feel the need to prove anything. And if he
does,
> well it's a serious character flaw for an Evil Dark Lord. Evil Dark
Lords
> shouldn't care what others think of them, even what their followers
think of
> them in my opinion. Perhaps Voldemort isn't as powerful as everyone
thinks
> he is?
>
> How about this for another stupid mistake. Instead of destroying
the portkey
> after Harry arrives, it is left where Harry can get to it again.
Tchah.
> Somebody should've either 1)Destroyed it or 2)Nullified it so it
couldn't be
> used as a portkey any longer. I hope Wormtail got a good yelling at
later...
>
> I do realize that Voldemort is not perfect. He has to make
mistakes, fatal
> mistakes that bring about his downfall. However, I just don't like
it when
> Villains make ridiculous mistakes. And untying Harry and giving his
wand
> back was a ridiculous mistake in my mind. If Voldemort makes any
others in
> the next books, I'll be quite upset.
>
> Forgive me for being all passionate about this. I'm perhaps one of
the few
> people who did NOT find the ending of GOF chilling at all; I found
it
> somewhat hokey. *grin* Eh, well, such is life...
>
> ~Amber
>
You make some good points. But the "Untie him" and subsequent duel
worked very well for me, and I consider the line "Untie him and give
him his wand" a really chilling one.
Imagine that you are a powerful wizard, but you were defeated by a
toddler. Everyone knows it; how embarrassing! Indeed, it turns out
Voldemort "needs" Harry to get his body back. Even more
emasculating. Of course you need to prove that you're as powerful as
you are supposed to be (particularly since an evil Dark Wizard always
has to fear assasination from his own evil supporters). Moreover,
what kind of coward do you have to be to kill someone in cold blood
while they are unarmed and tied up?
No, you have to do this thing with some style. So you do what
Wizards do -- a duel. But compare what Voldemort knows and what he
doesn't know. You have no chance of losing to a kid, you have no
reason to think he can do anything for himself with mom and
Dumbledore, you don't know Harry's wand shares a core with yours, and
you don't know the portkey still works (remember that Moody bewitched
it, but Voldemort has no reason to think it's a Round Trip ticket).
You have 30 DEs to back you up. So you have a little fun first.
Also, Voldemort cares plenty what his supporters think. Why torture
Wormtail and Avery? To impress the DEs with his power. In the
graveyard, Voldemort needs to make the sale to his own supporters --
he's back, and his powers haven't been diminished by lacking a body.
Finally, what else is JKR to do here? Harry is tied up and unarmed,
and we need him to survive. There's no other good solution that
comes to mind (other than something really clumsy like having
Wormtail have a change of heart and rescue Harry -- Ack!).
Anyway, I hope I've helped with this, because I agree that if the
graveyard scene doesn't work for you, then you've read 500+ pages
without a payoff, and that's no fun.
Cindy
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