Singing Voldemort, Nimbus 2000, Innocence, eye rolling & more

[katzefan at yahoo.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 24757

From:  "Caius Marcius" <coriolan at w...>
Subject:  Voldemort Sings
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Tabouli" <tabouli at u...> wrote:
> katzefan: 
> > Allyse: could've been worse - remember what Disney did to 
Mary Poppins? Try to envision a *singing* Voldemort.
> 
> I am, and very amusing it is too.  If I knew any of the twee 
>songs in Mary Poppins well enough, I'd attempt a filk (Just a 
>tune full of magic makes Lord Voldemort go down, tralala...)
> 
>You must be new here.  Over the past several months, my 
>fellow filkers and I have had the Dark Lord crooning to material 
>ranging from Gilbert & Sullivan to the Bee Gees, from Cole 
>Porter to the Lion King ... Voldy's high cold voice is especially 
>well suited to reaching those high falsetto notes in such songs 
>as "Staying Alive" or "Lightnin' Striking Again" (rendered as 
>Barely Alive and Dark Mark Striking Again on the website).

With backup singers Darth Vader and Sauron, right? Caius 
Marcius, took a quick glance at your site (bookmarked it) and 
nearly fell off my chair laughing at `The V Word is Scaring
Us'. Will get back ASAP and read the rest! Can anybody 
contribute if they can come up with something reasonably good? 
(Why do I think Gilbert and Sullivan would have loved to do a 
parody on this if they'd had the chance?)

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Pam Hugonnet <pbarhug at e...> 
wrote:
> Susanne Schmid wrote:
> > --- prefectmarcus at y... wrote:
> > I have always wanted to know, -- and I checked the
> > archives and see no  mention of my question -- where
> > did Harry's Nimbus 2000 come from?
> 
> I believe that McGonagall tells Harry (either by note or in 
>person) that she ordered the broom and took the money form 
>his account (at Gringotts, presumably).  I'd like to quote chapter 
>and verse, but my book is out on loan at the minute.
> drpam
> 
Actually, I just glanced through PS/SS and couldn't find any 
mention of who paid for it. I think drpam is getting  this confused 
with the scene in which Sirius tells Harry he (Sirius) sent the 
Firebolt for Harry's birthday - "I used your name but told
them to take the gold from Gringotts vault number seven 
hundred and eleven - my own."

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., vheggie at y... wrote:
> Maybe I'm an anomoly, but my religious education lessons at 
>school in the UK taught me that the Anglican church typically 
>has three godparents; two the same sex as the child, and one 
>the opposite.  Of  course, there's always the possibility that 
>Sirius was the onlyGodparent to survive...

Interesting. In the RC church (IF I've got this correct) a child
gets one pair of godparents only (man and woman). They are 
often themselves a married couple, but I don't believe anything 
says they have to be - parents can pick a separate godmother 
and godfather if they wish. (Feel free to correct me, folks ...)

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., John Walton <john at w...> wrote:
> Mindy, a.k.a. CLH said:
> 
> > One of the lovingly refreshing things about the HP books is 
>that it is devoid of any lurid details and has absolutely zero 
>sexual innuendo or  encounters. It makes it appropriate for 
>children to read as well. (etc.)> 
> Er, Mindy, the characters at the moment are FOURTEEN. They 
>are most unlikely to be having ANY sort of romantic relationship 
>at that time, having only just got over the "yuck, girls"/"yuck, 
>boys" stage.  ...... IMO, Mindy, saying that the HP characters are 
>innocent is rather a naive attitude to take. I don't agree that the 
>characters in HP are innocent at ALL -- take Malfoy's bigoted, 
>racist attitudes towards Mudbloods; the Weasley's attitudes 
>towards the nearly-enslaved House Elves; the entire 
>community's treatment of Squibs; the complete lack of any sort 
>of justice system. 
> 
This is definitely getting into tetchy subject matter here. I agree 
with Mindy, inasmuch as I am fed up, yea verily unto the back 
teeth, with stories that offer a blow-by-blow description (OK, 
lousy pun) about people's private lives (I'm not voting for
banning here; as John says, if you don't like it, don't read
it). But John, I am myself a little puzzled by your assertion that 
`the characters at the moment are FOURTEEN.' Take a good 
look at  some of the 12-year-old-girls-going-on-28 strolling 
around out there - many of whom, unfortunately, think they are far 
more streetwise than they really are. And innocence doesn't 
mean complete blandness or Goody-Two-Shoes-behaviour. I 
think many of the  character flaws you mention are those of 
ignorance rather than deliberate malevolence (even Malfoy, at 
this stage - although he'll certainly follow in daddy's
footsteps if someone doesn't manage to rein him in) - although 
I'm not offering that up as an excuse.
Overall, I agree with everyone who pointed out that it's *how*
JKR handles the subject that makes the books such wonderful 
reads. (Susan: I had to wonder about that `practicing 
inappropriate charms on a goat' as well. Perhaps Dumbledore's 
brother comes from one of those places where men are men 
and the sheep are nervous ....)

> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., John Walton <john at w...> wrote:
> > cynthiaanncoe at h... said:
> ...I'd say that about 98%  of the characters and scenes worked 
>great, and that's quite an accomplishment. 
> And by the way, did every single thing in the books work for you, 
>or did you have your own eye-rollers?

I can't remember any, actually. I can be very non-discerning, 
especially when I'm reading a book for the first time, unless 
something is so glaringly out of place or so hideously written that 
you can't possibly overlook it. (Yeah, Voldemort shouldn't
have  given Harry his wand back, but it's perfectly in keeping
with  his personality and ego -- he wants very, *very* much to 
trash this little creep who so damaged *him* over a decade ago, 
and he wants to do it publicly, in front of his followers, to make 
sure they understand who really is the more powerful. And, of 
course, he's literally incapable of even considering the 
possibility that such a young wizard could be any match for him.) 
However, I *really* loved Amber's take on that
scene...."Feh" indeed! <g>


--- In HPforGrownups at y..., prefectmarcus at y... wrote:
> Harry is holding unto Cedric. 
> He is using his wand to "Accio" the Tri-wizard cup. 
> How does he catch the cup when both his hands are full of 
>things he does not want to leave behind?
> 
> Marcus

I always saw him shifting his grip on his wand so he could grab 
the cup with the same hand. Of course, that was before I saw the 
trailers, and how thick the wands were ... I had imagined them 
considerably thinner than that.

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., prefectmarcus at y... wrote:
> Voldemort has built up this big legend amongst the wizarding 
> population about being this super smart and powerful dude, 
>and all along he is litle more than a thug with perhaps better 
>than average talent.  Sooner or later some of his DE's are going 
>to notice this, I would think. I don't think it's accidental.

You *don't* suppose -- NOT Lockhart's evil twin?!?


katzefan, who wonders if she will work this hard on her 
schoolwork this year

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