Apparating, Lucius vs Voldemort, evil, favourite moments, Harry’s death

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Fri Aug 24 07:49:41 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 24817

In HPforGrownups at y..., "Aleks" <aleksrothis at y...> wrote:
> .... why can't MoM wizards focus on LV, apparate to his side 
> and capture him? 
> 
I'm guessing that Voldemort has a fair number of protective 
charms placed around himself, some of which may be booby-
trapped to the extreme detriment of enemies who show up in his 
immediate vicinity with (to his mind) nefarious purposes.


--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Indigo" <indigo at i...> wrote:
>> > [Little Alex wrote] Anyway, I think we should keep an eye on 
Lucius
> > Malfoy.  With Voldemort being the way he is, Lucius
> > just might be able to manipulate the hell out of
> > Voldemort.  Probably get Voldemort to defeat the world
> > *and then* give the guy a stab to his back and control
> > the world himself.  Or subtly using Voldemort as a
> > puppet (so subtly that Voldemort won't realize it, of
> > course).  Now, *that* would be a villain.
> > 
> Interesting idea.  I would not be adverse to seeing it, but I don't 
> get the feeling that's where JKR is going with this.  I also think 
> it'd be jarring for the younger readers to go from the 
> Harry/Voldemort tension to Harry/Lucius.  But anything's 
possible.

A pitched battle between Voldemort and Lucius Malfoy -- I'd PAY 
to see that (keeping well out of the line of fire).

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Alexandra Y. Kwan" <litalex at y...> 
wrote:
> Flawed as in literary character flaw or morally
> flawed?  I don't believe that people will
> automatically choose 'good' if given the choice.  Of
> course, that's assuming there *is* good and evil in
> the first place.  I fully believe that if 'evil' will
> reap more rewards without punishments, most people
> will go with the 'evil' choice instead of the 'good.' 
> Well, at least I would.  I think.
> 
> little Alex
> 
I think it depends on the level of `evil' involved - I mean,
cheating the tax man is considered a perfectly legitimate activity 
these days and not particularly evil (except by the government), 
but wholesale slaughter is on a slightly different scale. How
`evil' would you get, if you thought you could get away with
it?


--- In HPforGrownups at y..., pigwidgeon37 at y... wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I really would like to hear if anybody else has such a favourite 
> detail. My own is Snape, blasting apart the rose bushes at the 
Yule ball. 
> Susanna/pigwidgeon37

Too many to list, though I also liked Lockhart's Valentine dwarf, 
"twanging his harp in a threatening sort of way" when he 
approaches Harry to deliver the Valentine (not to mention the line 
"His eyes are as green as a fresh pickled toad." YUCK!). In
PS/SS, I loved Hagrid's casual handling of Mr. Dursley ("Ah,
shut up Dursley, yeh great prune," after which he yanks the rifle 
out of Vernon's hands, twists it into a knot and tosses it into a 
corner of  the room.) I particularly liked the scene in GoF when 
Ron and Harry are starting to panic over their lack of dates for the 
Christmas Ball. Ron (whose 40-watt light bulb appears to have 
finally lit) says to Hermione, "*You're* a girl and she snaps
back, "Oh, well spotted." 
And as I'm in the field myself, I was really, really, *really*
tickled  with JKR's portrayal of Rita Skeeter.Years ago, one of
my journalism professors said people who went into print 
reporting did so primarily because their egos weren't *quite* big 
enough to push them in front of a TV camera .... 
Then, of course, there's Snape blasting the rose bushes apart. 
Quite the dedicated chaperone .... And many others.

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., cynthiaanncoe at h... wrote:
> In a few interviews I read, JKR said a few times something like 
"What  makes you think Harry is going to survive for anything past 
the  seventh book" or words to that effect. 
> I assume this has been discussed before (although I can't find 
> anything about it on this site).  So what's the consensus of 
> opinion?  Is JKR going to kill Harry in some final showdown   
>with  Voldemort, or not?

I thought in one interview JKR said that, at the end of Book 7, 
Harry would be finished with the Dursleys and, as a Hogwarts 
graduate, preparing to strike out on his own. Didn't hear the 
interview myself, so I can't swear to it, but it certainly
didn't sound like she was planning to kill him off. I don't
think she'd dothat to her readers (I agree with those who say 
Dumbledore will almost certainly not survive, and I plan to have a 
hefty supply of Kleenex on hand when that happens.)

Foxmoth: thanks for the hilarious FILK. Had a brief vision of 
Lupin "stuck out in the shack, gnawing the furniture" and it
was just toooo much!


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But Ron was staring at Hermione as though suddenly seeing 
her in a whole new light. "Hermione, Neville's right - you
*are* a girl..."
"Oh, well spotted," she said acidly.







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