Defeating Voldemort, Moody, quotes, cats, muggles, Dudley

[Elizabeth Dalton]

No: HPFGUIDX 30508

Catching up from four digests. Don't you people sleep???!! ;)

Cindy C. wrote:

> he won't get his soul sucked out (because he probably can generate a patronus)

Really? You think V. has *happy* thoughts? Actually I think this would be an
interesting way around the other corner JKR has painted herself into, namely
that Harry is developing a moral sense about killing that may make even killing
V. a problem. Though I'm not sure I like the idea of the Dementors wandering
around with Voldemort's soul. Brrrrr.

Whirdy wrote:

> Is it not possible that Voldemort will be redeemed by Harry Potter?  Why must 
> it be a given or expected that death is the only solution and an unnatural 
> one at that?

Much as I tend to prefer this sort of ending, I have a hard time seeing it with
Voldemort. Wormtail, possibly, Dursleys, possibly, but Voldemort isn't
"accidentally" evil or misled.

Actually, I'm wondering if he'll (V.) do something self-destructive in the
process of trying to kill Harry, rather than Harry actually doing him in.
Probably something connected with the blood, right? Maybe if V. kills Harry now,
it will make V. mortal (and maybe even kill him)?

Bree wrote:

> 1. Is Fudge more evil than we have perceived, and had already given 
> orders to the Dementor to prevent Crouch, Jr. from spilling too much? 
> His later behavior would be explained--he is doing damage control to 
> subvert Crouch, Jrs testimony.

Personally, I think Fudge has crossed the line into evil. I don't think he's
necessarily a V. supporter, I think he's evil on his own-- stupidly so. He's
trying to maintain control over a system that's about to come apart. He may
think he can deal with V. on his own, without Dumbledore, or something, but I
think he disposed of Crouch Jr. as a witness on purpose.

Jamie seems to agree with me:

> I think we actually have three camps instead of the 
> perceived two.

> 1 - Voldemort and the Death-Eaters
> 2 - The Ministry of Magic
> 3 - Dumbledore & Co.

Or I agree with Jamie, take your pick.

Several people have presented as evidence "because Moody knew it". Let's not
forget that we haven't heard from the real Moody yet, right? What Crouch, Jr.
knew could be completely different.

>From Heather's quotes, my favorite is this one:

"The truth is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be 
treated with great caution. I shall answer your questions unless I 
have a very good reason not to, in which case I beg you'll forgive 
me. I shall not, of course, lie." 
- Albus Dumbledore 

I was terribly disappointed that it got left out of that "other medium" that we
don't talk about here.

>Does anyone know what cats are supposed to be?

There are an awful lot of associations for cats, but I think it's significant to
note that JKR has said she doesn't like cats. :(

And speaking of cats, all I can say about Catlady's post about Muggle and
"Mudblood" prejudice is that I wish I'd written it. :)

David: 'They thought they could conquer me,
Dudley Dursley, in whose veins runs the blood of Godric Gryffindor himself.'"

ROTFL!

Elizabeth