Loyal Servant?
joytest999
joym999 at aol.com
Sun Dec 16 05:06:24 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 31672
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Dave Hardenbrook <DaveH47 at m...> wrote:
> Is there anyone besides me who's wondering if Crouch really *was*
> V's loyal servant? Two things get me: One, in the Pensieve he's
> desperatly screaming his innocence, unlike his three companions.
> Second and more crucially, in the final scene between him and
> Harry, Crouch says that Voldemort "so wanted" to kill Harry...
> We know this to be true, because V is desparate to demonstrate
> to the DE's that he's stronger than Harry. Yet, Crouch is on the
> verge of killing Harry *himself*! This seems to me like Barty is
> playing a double-game here -- If V fails to kill Harry (by virtue
> partially by Harry's training and advice from pseudo-Moody) but then
> Crouch kills him, this would show that Crouch is stronger than
> Harry who's stronger than a restored V! The DE's would see this,
see
> where the real supreme power is, and suddenly it's *Crouch* who's
> "the biggest bully in the playground!" Does this make sense?
> *Could* Crouch have worked so hard to bring V back, really in order
> to embarass him and prove himself the stronger? Is *this* why he
> meticulously taught Harry about the three unforgivable curses, and
> told him to "play to his strengths" (his Quidditch reflexes) so that
> Harry could escape and get killed by Barty later? Is *this* why V
> (perhaps) ordered the Dementor to finish Crouch off -- to remove a
> potential rival?
Wow! Interesting theory, Dave. That would explain the old question
we've had for ages about why the false Moody taught Harry to resist
the Imperius Curse. But in order for your theory to be correct that
would imply that Crouch was powerful enough to lie even when under
the effects of Veritaserum. I guess that's possible; maybe
Veritaserum is like a lie detector -- it can be fooled by someone who
knows what they're doing.
But why would JKR do something like this? It's hard to imagine what
function in the overall plot this would have, since Crouch is now
dead. And now that I think of it, if Crouch was able to lie under
the Veritaserum why would he say he was in league with Voldy?
--Joywitch
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