Plot holes in GoF?
brewpub44
brewpub44 at earthlink.net
Sun Dec 30 05:40:51 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 32365
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "cindysphynx" <cindysphynx at h...> wrote:
> KT wrote:
>
>
> OK, now for the speculation part, and this is rank, unsupported
> speculation, mind you. Maybe her glitch was that she had
> written "Beauxbatons and Durmstrang" about the arrival of the rival
> Triwizard contestants and "The Goblet of Fire" where Harry's name
> comes out of the Goblet, but she had forgotten to account for the
> kidnapping of Real Moody first. Obviously, Harry's name going into
> the Goblet has to happen after Fake Moody is on the scene and Real
> Moody is in the trunk.
>
> So to fix this, she had to go back, write the Moody kidnap bit
> in "Mayhem at the Ministry," and then write some scenes for Fake
> Moody so his involvement in the Goblet incident doesn't come out of
> nowhere. So she adds in the Draco the Bouncing Ferret stuff and
the
> Unforgivable Curses business to establish Moody as Harry's friend
and
> a great teacher before Fake Moody puts Harry's name in the Goblet.
> She would also have to go back and conceive everything about Crouch
> Jr. escaping at the Quiddich World Cup to have Moody's kidnapping
> make sense. (Maybe this explains the confusion about the
> curse/murder language, too).
>
I, too, believe the Moody arc in GoF is the big plot hole. Why is
Fake Moody teaching the students about the Unforgivables? Doesn't
that play against LV's plans for Harry? Or does LV *want* Harry to
know what these are, so there is a greater challenge for LV at the
graveyard? Or does Dumbledore ask Fake Moody to teach these curses,
and FM complies to avoid Dumbledore's wrath? But there has never been
any Dumbledore Wrath at teachers (as far as the text shows).
It seems to me that Fake Moody could simply play it as another
incompetent DADA teacher and miss all these interactions.
Interactions would seem to cancel out the visual impact of the
Polyjuice Potion, people "catch on". Better to be seen but not heard.
Or, he could have been competent, but teach those arts that LV does
not employ. There are plenty of fey creatures awaiting discussion
beyond those taught by Lupin. It's all very odd.
I think it plays out much better if Moody is taken prisoner *during*
the school year instead of at the end. Therefore, Real Moody teaches
all this valuable stuff, then Fake Moody comes out, and because he
has Harry's confidence, starts to cheat to help Harry win. But
because of the inability to apparate onto school grounds, there has
to be a plausible reason to bring Crouch Jr. onto the campus to let
this happen, and I think it became a real mess for JKR. The books is
complicated as it is, now she has to solve this problem, too?
So JKR simply decides to let Moody get kidnapped before the school
year (the mention of the trash bins at the Weasley house does seem
somewhat of an afterthought, in hindsight). But she re-uses all the
wonderful Real Moody stuff, just disguises it as Fake Moody, and is
later surprised that Fake Moody is so well-liked! She could have
forgotten that the original writing *is* the likable Real Moody!
Just a thought
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