R/H, H/G, OBHWF, M-O-U-S-E

ffionelin at yahoo.co.uk ffionelin at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Feb 1 00:33:10 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 11397

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Kelley" <SKTHOMPSON_1 at m...> wrote:
> Thoughts on some shipping threads:
> 
> Pairing Harry with Ginny was never a 'consolation prize' to my 
mind.  
> If I'm remembering correctly, I saw an H/G pairing consciously 
before 
> I saw R/H.  Saw it in CoS, once Ginny got to HW, and was given 
> *something* to do.  I have no idea what JKR is planning; this is 
just 
> my hunch (for no air-tight reasons at all).  Yes, Ginny is not 
> developed yet.  There are three books to go, though, guys.  Moody 
> wasn't well-developed before GoF in which he figured very 
strongly.  
> Granted that was a long book, JKR had plenty of space in which to 
> develop him.  I still contend that all it will take to make Ginny a 
> well-developed character is one book.  She's had more 'page-time' 
> than Cho, yet we all saw her as a romantic interest for Harry, 
albeit 
> just a crush in which he didn't know anything about her.  I agree, 
> Harry ~is~ part of the Weasley family, and Hermione too, to an 
> extent, so pairing these characters off isn't necessary to show 
> that.  I do not believe that JKR will not go in -some- romantic 
> direction with any of the characters, though.  With the 
similarities 
> that can, and have been, drawn between the Marauder generation and 
> the generation of today, some romantic pairing seems a given to 
me... 
> 
> I also strongly contend that if anyone can make OBHWF happen 
without 
> sap, it's JKR.  Cliche, maybe; but perhaps this scenario will serve 
> her purposes.  We don't know yet.  The characters seem ripe with 
> cliched characteristics to me, so I wouldn't put any cliche past 
> JKR.  I will say that JKR has avoided sap and schmaltz thus far 
> wonderfully well.  I venture to think most would agree with me on 
> that.  Now, given that, why would anyone assume if JKR goes for 
> the 'tied up in a bow' ending, that she will do so sappily?  I can 
> see her guiding our realizations of whom the characters 'end up 
with' 
> the same way she has handled so many other bits already:  Mrs. 
> Weasley hugging Harry while he tries to choke back long withheld 
> tears; Sirius' reaction when Harry tells them about J & L coming 
out 
> of Vold's wand and speaking to him; the *Kiss; Harry seeing J & L, 
et 
> al, in Erised; on and on.  To me, these situations were handled 
with 
> a minimum of sap, so I'm thinking that if big-happy-family is where 
> this will all end up, JKR certainly won't choose that time to go 
> heavy on the saccharine.  She may go this route in such a way that 
it 
> will seem 'right', even to those who right now may think this would 
> be the most disappointing ending of all.  Additionally, if JKR 
really 
> does not want to ever return to HP once the series is done, giving 
> the impression of Happily Ever After for the characters would be a 
> good way to avoid the pleas she'll surely get to continue.  If she 
> gives enough hints as to what the future will be of the characters, 
> enough sense of closure for the characters and the story in 
general, 
> fans should be relatively satisfied.  Thoughts? 
> Kelley

In answer to your thoughts on the possible pairings off in HP - I 
really can't decide whether JKR will go for the obvious Ron/Hermione, 
Harry/Ginny, since this is what we could be led to expect - and she 
is great at taking the story on a path that isn't really possible to 
guess [well, maybe that's just me!].  However, there is obviously 
something between Ron and Hermione that'll have to be addressed in 
some way if love/relationships are tobe introduced properly in HP.
I also agree that Ginny will become a more rounded character - 
perhaps she isn't so much now because we might see her [in terms of 
importance] through Harry's eyes - and being his friend's little 
sister, she isn't that important.  but as she gets older  does 
something perhaps to prove herself as not being just a little sister 
[who was naive and had to be rescued by Harry], his interest/respect 
for her will grow and so we, the reader, will have the opportunity of 
getting to know her better too - and I think she'll turn out to be a 
fully-rounded character, as are H/R/H - and not a cliche of any kind 
[a la Bagman/Lockhart] - she will do something brave/courageous, I'm 
sure ot it.
There is also, of course, the old 'red hair' arguement on ginny's 
side - a la Lily/James - but will the paralels witht he that 
generation really be that similar?

but, as you say, I think we can trust JKR not to be too soppy or 
obvious about what's going on - partly I suppose because she's aware 
that quite young children are reading these books.  

I just hope that, whatever it is, it will be a satisfactory ending - 
a point which I am dreading terribly!  To have nothing else to look 
forward to and speculate about with Harry will be quite awful!  

Ffion 





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