Unsappiness (was R/H, H/G,...)

[Kelley]

No: HPFGUIDX 11649

>Ffion wrote:
> In answer to your thoughts on the possible pairings off in HP - I 
> really can't decide whether JKR will go for the obvious 
Ron/Hermione, Harry/Ginny, since this is what we could be led to 
expect - and she is great at taking the story on a path that isn't 
really possible to guess [well, maybe that's just me!].  However, 
there is obviously something between Ron and Hermione that'll have to 
be addressed in some way if love/relationships are tobe introduced 
properly in HP.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I absolutely agree with both points you make here.  Ideally, it would 
be the best to me if JKR goes in a way NONE of us expect with the 
relationships.  And, I wouldn't be surprised if she has R/H happen in 
canon and not 'work out'.  I'll be fine however she handles things, 
so long as her story stays true...

>Ffion:
> I also agree that Ginny will become a more rounded character - 
> perhaps she isn't so much now because we might see her [in terms of 
> importance] through Harry's eyes - and being his friend's little 
> sister, she isn't that important.  but as she gets older  does 
> something perhaps to prove herself as not being just a little 
sister [who was naive and had to be rescued by Harry], his 
interest/respect for her will grow and so we, the reader, will have 
the opportunity of getting to know her better too - and I think 
she'll turn out to be a fully-rounded character, as are H/R/H - and 
not a cliche of any kind [a la Bagman/Lockhart] - she will do 
something brave/courageous, I'm sure ot it.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I do expect this, too.  And, I definitely expect much of Ginny's 
development and 'maturing' to happen in book #5.  Even if 
her 'pagetime' doesn't increase significantly in the next book, what 
we do see of her will, I expect, show her character's development.

>Ffion:
> There is also, of course, the old 'red hair' arguement on ginny's 
> side - a la Lily/James - but will the paralels witht he that 
> generation really be that similar?<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Good question.  I can see JKR going that way, but I wouldn't say she 
absolutely will.  (That was certainly a 'firm maybe', wasn't it? <g>)
 
>Ffion:
> but, as you say, I think we can trust JKR not to be too soppy or 
> obvious about what's going on - partly I suppose because she's 
aware that quite young children are reading these books.  
> I just hope that, whatever it is, it will be a satisfactory ending  
> a point which I am dreading terribly!  To have nothing else to look 
> forward to and speculate about with Harry will be quite awful! 
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Lol, same here.  I'm really hoping she'll have the HP withdrawals 
that we do, and realize she just HAS to continue... ;o]

> Kelley wrote:
> <lots of good stuff) To me, these situations were handled with 
> a minimum of sap, so I'm thinking that if big-happy-family is where 
> this will all end up, JKR certainly won't choose that time to go 
> heavy on the saccharine. <lots more good stuff>
>
>Amy Z. wrote: 
> Right on, Kelley.
> Lots of H/Hers don't want to see R/H because OBHWF (that's One Big 
> Happy Weasley Family, newbies) is too sappy/cliched.
> Lots of R/Hers don't want to see H/H because HGTG (Hero Gets the 
Girl) is too sappy/cliched.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

LOL, thanks Amy, glad to hear I'm not alone!  When I first the H/H 
arguments, HGTG is exactly what I thought.  That has to be just as 
cliched as OBHF, if not more so.

> Amy Z.: 
> Fear not, shippers and sap-o-phobes of all descriptions!  Let us go 
> boldly forth in the faith that our Jo will resist cliche, whatever 
> romances happen or fail to happen.  We can all relax and enjoy this 
> cruise and know that she'll write whatever she writes with 
> that witching combination of unpredictability and inevitability 
that she's brought to so many twists *and* emotional scenes so far.<<<

Hear, hear!  I'll say this again, my greatest hope is for an 
ending/wrap-up that none of us see coming.  Crossing fingers....

Kelley