[HPforGrownups] Re: Use of the Time-Turner to Help Sirius in PoA

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No: HPFGUIDX 11700

No, they didn't really change what happened with
Buckbeak, if you think about it. The first time
through, they hear what they think is the coup de
grace when they hear the axe swing. The noise they
hear is later explained once time has been turned
back. When Harry, Ron and Hermione are leaving
Hagrid's under the Invisibility Cloak, Harry and
Hermione (who had turned back time) had already
released Buckbeak. The swish the invisible trio heard
was the executioner swinging at a tree in frustration.
H, R & H assumed it was Buckbeak's head being chopped
off, but they didn't actually see it. 
Someone else already provided the crucial quotes
explaining that they absolutely could not be seen. And
if they couldn't be seen, there was no way they could
have gone to Lupin to get him to take his potion.

--- katgurl2k at yahoo.com wrote:
> They were messing with time regardless, my only
> point was why 
> couldn't they do it just in a different way.  They
> changed events by 
> making sure that Buckbeak wasn't killed.  Why
> couldn't they have gone 
> and made Lupin take his potion while he was alone,
> and it wouldn't 
> have interfered any more than they did in the book.
> 
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., A B <old_wych at y...>
> wrote:
> > They weren't allowed to be seen the second time
> > through those three hours. How could they have
> made
> > Lupin take his potion without being seen? They
> also
> > weren't supposed to change anything that had
> already
> > happened. Dumbledore says something to the effect
> that
> > they can't mess around with events they know have
> > happened because it will effect the outcome in
> unknown
> > ways. Thus they cannot be seen or interact with
> > anyone.
> > 
> > --- katgurl2k at y... wrote:
> > > Could someone maybe help me with this?  Harry
> and
> > > Hermione use the 
> > > Time-Turner to go back three hours to help
> Sirius
> > > and Buckbeak 
> > > escape.  The whole reason the original plan of
> takin
> > > Sirius and Peter 
> > > to the Ministry did not work was because Lupin
> did
> > > not take his 
> > > potion and he turned into a werewolf.  Wouldn't
> it
> > > have made more 
> > > sense to go back to before they went to the
> > > Shrieking Shack and make 
> > > sure that Lupin took his potion?  Then they
> would
> > > have been able to 
> > > keep Peter and it would have been sorted out so
> that
> > > Harry could have 
> > > gone to live with Sirius.  It doesn't make
> sense.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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