[HPforGrownups] Angelina/Ages of Hogwarts First Years (was Ron & Quidditch)

Ebony Elizabeth Thomas ebonyink at hotmail.com
Wed Feb 7 02:44:18 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 11807

Hi, SML and list--

>I guess in Book 5 we'll see a new Gryffindor Keeper replacing Oliver Wood, 
>a
>new Team Captain, again replacing Wood, and possibly a Chaser or two, since
>we don't know if any of the three female Chasers have completed their
>schooling.  Angelina Johnson was 17 in the autumn of Gof school year... I
>would think she might have graduated in June?  Will there be any ROOM in
>Book 5 for Quidditch except a 'mention in passing'?
>


You know, Angelina may have graduated at the end of GoF, but for some 
strange reason I always thought the three Chasers and the twins were in the 
same year.  Call me batty, because I've absolutely no direct evidence 
whatsoever to support it.  But here's the conversation in which we learn 
Ange's 17...

************

People were cheering out in the entrance hall.  They all swiveled around in 
their seats and saw Angelina Johnson coming into the hall, grinning in an 
embarrassed sort of way.  A tall black girl who played Chaser on the 
Gryffindor Quidditch team, Angelina came over to them, sat down, and said, 
"Well, I've done it!  Just put my name in!"

"You're kidding!" said Ron, looking impressed.

"Are you seventeen, then?" asked Harry.

"'Course she is, can't see a beard, can you?" said Ron.

"I had my birthday last week," said Angelina.

*************

I think if she was a seventh year at the time, it would have automatically 
been assumed that she is seventeen, and Harry would have never thought to 
ask if she was.  I read the conversation as rationalizing to the reader 
*why* someone previously assumed to have been in the same year as the 
twins/Chasers was able to enter the contest.

This gets right back into our debate about the Hogwarts cut-off date for 
entrance.  *Must* the child be 11 on September 1?  If so, then Angelina is a 
sixth year in GoF.  However, that means that Hermione's almost a year older 
than Harry and perhaps older than Ron as well, since JKR has expressly 
stated that her birthday is September 19.  (Sidenote--*why* hasn't anyone 
asked JKR about Ron's birthday?)

Interesting stuff, there.

--Ebony AKA AngieJ (who paradoxically believes that Angelina was a sixth 
year in GoF, but Hermione was 10 when she entered Hogwarts, and has 
absolutely no textual evidence to back it up)

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