FF/SHIP: RE: Changing the subject line b/c Harry's too boring for it

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No: HPFGUIDX 11853


Kathy wrote: Well...as an unnamed crewmate mentioned recently, the 
only reason she could stand PoU Harry was that he had so many Ron-
like qualities in him.

Penny wrote: I'd be very very interested to know which aspects of PoU 
Harry's character are "Ron-like" in your mind (and/or in the mind of 
your unnamed crewmate).  Please elaborate.  <g>

They are both carbon-based life forms? Ninety percent of both their 
bodies is water? <g> I'm with Carole there, I don't see any 
similarities between PoU Harry and canon Ron. I am fond of PoU Harry 
and find his personality generally appealing. I also find canon Ron's 
personality generally appealing. It does not therefore follow that 
they have the same personality. I don't mean to tear down the theory, 
I just don't understand it. PoU Harry seems to me to be a plausible 
extrapolation of canon Harry, including his resentment of fame and 
the insecurity about being loved that comes from having spent one's 
formative years locked in a cupboard. Neither of these qualities is, 
to me, at all Ron-like. PoU Harry is funnier than canon Harry, but 
then again he's also funnier than canon Ron. I think that has more to 
do with his being older and Lori having a wicked sense of humor than 
him being at all like Ron. Face it, in canon neither Harry *nor* Ron 
talks in Buffy quotes. <g>

  
Kathy wrote: I  personally would take Ron any day...and anyone who 
thinks a Ron-type can't have depth and personality isn't looking 
closely enough.
> 
I don't think anyone said or implied that. I hope not. The outpouring 
of support for Harry and the statements that we don't find him 
boring, but instead very loveable, were not meant to denigrate Ron by 
extension.  

Kathy wrote: 
Anyway, this whole thing started with my perfectly innocent comment 
that I'm starting to find Harry kinda boring, and it's true--I am 
really more interested in the other characters' perspectives at this 
point.

*confused* But the only character's perspective we get in canon is 
Harry's. The only perspective we will ever get in canon is Harry's. 
JKR has shown no inclination or likelihood to to tell the story from 
Ron's POV. She lives firmly in Harry's head and so, by extension, do 
we. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you meant, since the only place I 
see that we will ever get other characters' perspectives is in 
fanfic. And much as I love fanfic, I can't imagine preferring it to 
the books.

Rita wrote:
I WATCH THE SHIPPER DEBATES and mourn that I can offer no evidence 
from canon, no evidence from books about marriage counselling, but 
only a
statement about what *I* can and can't imagine.  The only circumstance
in which I can imagine Ron and Hermione having a romantic, sexual, or
marriage relationship that lasts longer than briefly is IF Harry died
and his death traumatised both of them so much that they each 
dedicated the rest of their life to enshrining his memory, and after 
several years they both got the idea that, being as how they like 
each other as friends, and they have the same obsession, and they've 
worked together well on projects, and neither of them has anything 
even vaguely resembling a love life, it would make sense for them to 
get married and have a son named Harry.

*Is laughing too hard to type.* Wow. It must be fun being a no-
shipper. You can get away with saying all sorts of stuff the rest of 
us can't.

<g>

Cassie