[HPforGrownups] Lily - Snape & Hermione

Annette Harada annetteh11 at home.com
Sun Feb 11 07:22:32 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 12038

You're absolutely right about what Hagrid said of Lily being head girl-can't
believe I've read the books so many times and didn't remember that!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amy Z" <aiz24 at hotmail.com>
To: <HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 10:57 PM
Subject: [HPforGrownups] Lily - Snape & Hermione


> Annette wrote:
> > I'll have to look it up, but have you noticed that no one says they
> went to
> > school with Lilly?  Several people remember her fondly, but I don't
> recall
> > any comments about her at school, and the comment about Voldemort's
> father
> > being a "muggle AND a full, very much like your mother" seems to
> through
> > some indecision in the matter.
>
> Hagrid didn't go to school with her (he was much older) but he tells
> Harry quite specifically when they first meet that James AND Lily went
> to Hogwarts (head boy and girl) and that they were a very powerful
> wizard and witch.  Lily was like Hermione:  Muggle-born, but a
> talented witch.  Muggle-born doesn't mean you start out life without
> magical talent; it means your parents are both Muggles.
>
> Perhaps the confusion has to do with not only Voldemort & Co., but
> even the narration talking about "blood" as an explanation?  i.e. I
> think it's at the start of CS that "Muggle" is defined as "someone
> with not a drop of magical blood" (that's from memory, correct me if
> I'm miscontruing).  This can be a little confusing, since we Muggles,
> with our odd ideas about race, are in the habit of thinking of "blood"
> as something that goes by fractions, as in "she's half white, half
> black."  But the canon is quite clear on the fact that magical talent
> may be largely inherited (a matter of "blood," so to speak), but also
> pops up out of nowhere (in the case of Muggle-born witches/wizards)
> and can be totally absent in people whose ancestors are mostly magical
> (in the case of Squibs).
>
> Here's a question:  can a wizard tell, just by looking at someone,
> whether he/she's Muggle, magical, Muggle-born, etc.?  In GF ("The
> Quidditch World Cup") Lucius knows that Hermione is Muggle-born.  How?
>  Did he learn who she was in CS, maybe in the bookshop, and I'm
> forgetting?  (I have GOT to buy the books.)  Or maybe because Draco
> has talked about her, as we know from the scene in Borgin & Burke's,
> LM assumes the girl with the Weasleys in the Top Box must be that
> Granger girl?
>
> Re: Snape's teaching and why he hates Hermione:  maybe it hasn't much
> to do with Harry; maybe he just hates a "know-it-all" (not that I'm
> agreeing with this characterization of Hermione).  Teachers do tend to
> love hardworking students, but they can also hate the most hardworking
> and talented students; I've seen it many a time.
>
> Amy Z
>
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