Lycanthropy - Azkaban - Weird Names - HP Tour

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No: HPFGUIDX 12066

Naama wrote:
> why do you think that Lycanthropy is unique to magic people?
> I don't think its been explicitly stated that if a werewolf bites a
> muggle it wouldn't have any effect on him/her.

If there were Muggles turning into werewolves every Full Moon, Muggles
would find out that werewolves exist. It would be reported in our
newspapers and even scientific rationalist types would be persuaded by
their own experience of encounters with werewolves. Therefore, Wolfie
Twins in their fic hypothesized that every Muggle (and most wizarding
adults) who are bitten by a werewolf die. I think they said the symptoms
of dying from stress of shapeshifting magic resemble those of rabies.
(Of course, many people die of the bite injuries in a normal way.)

If lycanthropy itself is not fatal to Muggles, maybe the wizarding
government departments responsible for concealing magic from Muggles
have actual assassination squads to kill lycanthropic Muggles. That is
quite a nasty thought (the kind of nasty thing that REAL governments do)
so maybe they just kidnap lycanthropic Muggles and put them in St.
Mungo's under heavy restraint.

Monika Huebner wrote:
> Dementors cause clinical depression; if you already have clinical
> depression, they cannot make you much worse, but their presence
> will prevent you of ever getting out of it.

Yes they can make it worse.  Sirius mentioned that most of his fellow
prisoners died in only a few years, died of having lost the will to
live, not of deliberate suicide. Our Muggle clinical depression can be
fatal via suicide, but doesn't get bad enough that people Just Die.

John Walton mentioned
> Lavender as a hippie type name.

To me, Lavender is definitely more of an old-lady type name than a
hippie type name.

Amy Z signed off as
> Plain old Amy Z

Plain old? You mean Amy isn't short for Amiabilia or something? When I
wrote about Cho and Mary, I decided that the other four girls in their
dorm are
Tina short for Florentina
Lucy short for Melusina
Annie short for Esperanza
and Nellie short for Pulcherinella, whose grandmother is named Pulchi
short for Pulcheria and whose mother is named Rina short for Pulcherina
and who has often declared that if she has daughters, she is going to
name them Cho and Mary.
Meanwhile, Mary's sister Ellie and Ellie's boyfriend Andy are,
unbeknownst to the readers, Electra and Androcles.
And, from a previous generation,  my Snapefic mentions 'little Nellie
Nott' as wife of Nott the Death Eater -- Nellie is short for Florinella,
altho' I doubt that will come up in the story.

Flying Ford Anglia retorted:
> Neil is a contraction of Nigel... hmmmm, should I take offence
> at your j/k remark?

I always thought that Neil came from Niall came from Njal, as in Njal's
Saga.... Elizabeth I mistakenly thought she had co-opted The O'Neill by
giving him the title Earl of Tyrone.

Flying Ford Anglia mused:
> Firstly, the fact that the wizarding world was forced to interbreed
> with the Muggle world in order to survive.  (snip) it must also
> have meant a much greater interaction between the two worlds in
> recent generations than in the past.

> it's no surprise to me that [Arthur] and Molly would give their
children
> acceptable Muggle names.

I never thought that Ron's remark, if we hadn't intermarried with
Muggles we would have died out, referred to a RECENT population or
fertility crisis, but was said gazing back (vaguely, as he was 11 at the
time) on 6000 or 12000 years of intermarriage. There would have been
even more CONTACT between wizards and Muggles in earlier millennia than
now, as wizarding folk didn't use to try to keep their existence secret.
And the debate about Muggle-born wizards was the same 1000 years ago
between Salazar and his colleagues as it is now between Lucius and
Arthur.

I bet those are all old Weasley family names, and Arthur and Molly and
all the young Weasleys would be astonished to be told that they are
Muggle names.

Ebony wrote:
> A couple of chats ago, I asked if perhaps the Weasley kids were
> nicknamed. The chatters verdict was "Probably".

I'm the heretic: I still think most of them AREN'T nicknamed.  Some
people formed a club called The Order of the Unbroken Name for people
who are demanding about being called by their 'real' names instead of
nicknames. One of the founders was a James who refused to acknowledge
anyone who called him Jim. A number of friends of mine joined this club:
Tony (a boy), Tony (a girl),  and Vickie (a girl).

> These were the lengthened names we came up with.
> Bill--William
The heretic thinks Bill is short for Bilius, named after Uncle Bilius
who died when he saw a Grim.
> Charlie--Charlie
> Percy--Percival (one problem:  the meaning of the name changes!)
> Fred--Frederick
> George--George
> Ron--Ronald
The heretic thinks Charlie, Percy, Fred, and George ARE their given
names. For example, Dumbledore refers to Mr. Fred Weasley, Mr. George
Weasley and Mr. Ronald Weasley.  If he uses the full name for Ron, why
would he use a short name for Fred?
> Ginny--Virginia, Ginger, or something else with a "Gin" root
My mother's generation was sure that Ginger was a nickname for Virginia,
not a real name. In Britain, Ginger could also be a nickname for a
red-haired person, but my mother couldn't deal with that. I think her
real name is Ginny, but if it's a nickname, she could be the Genevieve,
Genevere, Genetrix, or Agincourtessa of the family.

Neil believes:
> Olympe [is a name found only in the wizarding community]

Manet's model for his famous kiddy-porn painting (the nude of the young
prostitute wearing a black ribbon around her neck) was named Olympe. As
a French name, it might be more common in France than in English
speaking countries.

Naama asked:
> Whats up with the tour, fellas? I've joined the tour group and sent
> an enthusiastic "I'm in!" message, only to notice a minute later that
> the most recent post is from December. Is the tour off and I haven't
> heard about it?

I don't want the tour to be off, altho' Penny will be busy with the baby
and Amanda and Dee don't have the money and all the people who are in
school have their school holidays at different times, but I also don't
want to be the planner and organizer of an outing to a country where I
have never been -- I might allow enough driving time between two places
for if the route were by freeway but it turns to be by twisted country
lane.  When I saw a news release that the British tourism department was
going to publish guide books to Harry Potter sites in the UK, I decided
I would wait for them to do the work for me.

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