[HPforGrownups] SHIP: Questions for R/Hers...

[Rebecca Boswell]

No: HPFGUIDX 12125

Hey!

    On the Ship wars, I personally don't have a definite ship.  Seeing as by
the time the trio's seventh year rolls around, all three of them will be so
extreamlly close and will know each other so incredibly well, romantic love
won't be much of an issue.
    As for in the long run, though, there are lot of hints to a R/Hr the
GoF.  I think JKR is planning a R/Hr...but there isnt any definite evidence.
One clue is:

<<Standing ten feet apart, ther were bellowing at each other, each scarlet
in the face.
"Well if you don't like it, you know what the solution is, don't you?"
yelled Hermione...
"Oh yea?" Ron yelled back. "What's that?"
"Next time there's a ball, ask me before someone else does, and not as a
last resort!"
Ron mouthed soundlessly like a goldfish out of water as Hermione turned on
her heel and stormed up the girls' staircase to bed.>>

    Ok, so Hermione is *hinting* Ron to ask her out.  And Ron obviously
scowls at Viktor whenever he's near in GoF, not to mention the little
incident with the figurine arm.  Plus, this book is somewhat from Harry's
POV, and we all know that Harry's all gushy for Cho at the moment.  The only
remotely H/Hr comment made was at the Yule Ball, where Harry commented that
a "pretty girl in blue robes" was walking with Viktor.
    So, any thoughts otherwise are still welcome.  And opinions on the
upcoming movie?  I personally think that it's going to be a good production
but majorly off from my personal view of the wizarding world in general.
Kind of a bittersweet deal. o.O

Becca


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ebony Elizabeth Thomas" <ebonyink at hotmail.com>
To: <HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 1:36 PM
Subject: [HPforGrownups] SHIP: Questions for R/Hers...


> This post is dedicated to the entire Mod Squad, who thought the Great
> Shipping Debate was Resting In Peace.  Cheers!
>
> First question--
>
> One of the top arguments that R/Hers have used in the past to debunk HGTG
is
> that "Harry has everything else, so Ron deserves something that he doesn't
> have... the girl."
>
> Validity of the above position aside... doesn't this reasoning work most
> satisfactorily if the hero actually wants the girl, and the girl (you have
> to admit the terminology involved in this position is troublesome) chooses
> the alternate hero/sidekick over him?
>
> After all...
>
> Ron has a lot that Harry doesn't have... red hair, height, 20/20 vision,
> formerly a rat... this list goes on a bit further, but you catch my drift.
> There is no indication thus far that Harry wants any of these things.
>
> If Hermione also falls under this Unwanted category, I'm not sure how
canon
> R/H would give Ron the satisfaction that he has something that Harry
> doesn't.  I'm not sure that even getting the girl at this point would
> completely alleviate his growing disquietude.
>
> However...
>
> If the H/Hers' FITD theory is *reversed* all of a sudden from
>
> R----->He---(?)--->Ha----->C/R/no one
>
> to a chain that is highly implausible at this point in canon--
>
> Ha----->He----->R
>
> ...it seems as if this would satisfy the R/H argument that "Ron needs
> something that Harry doesn't have" to "Ron deserves something that Harry
> doesn't have *and wants*."
>
> Since there is no canonical evidence whatsoever of Reversed FITD, how does
> Ron Getting Hermione (winces again at the terminology) fulfill the
criteria
> set forth by R/Hers in the first place?
>
> I'm not arguing my ship here.  Please help me understand.  And don't fear
a
> trap!  Cassie's offline until at least Friday, Penny's not posting very
> much, and the other H/Hers are quiet, gentle souls.  So here I stand, all
> alone...  :::Ebony starts humming and singing:::
>
> Also, yesterday in chat I asked the crowd what an extrapolated, paired-off
> future Ron and Hermione would talk about if they weren't arguing.  I got
> some silly responses that you'd have to check the chat transcripts for,
but
> the top three answers were:  1)  Humdrum everyday things... what do all
> couples talk about?  2)  His work--her work.  3)  Talk?  They'd be too
busy
> shagging.  ;o)  (Of course, all the H/H and no-shippers in the room ran
away
> screaming at that point.)
>
> I really want to make an honest attempt to understand the other PoV, but
my
> brain is *refusing* to think along those lines. I need some help, please.
> As I'm on leave until next Monday, that means you guys have one week to
get
> me to jump ship.  Who knows?  Perhaps I'll be traveling on the Good Ship
R/H
> by March... don't look at me like that!  Stranger things have happened!
>
> Thanks ever so much in advance,
>
> Ebony (who, in writing Episode 7 of her soap, is going through an entire
> case of virtual Pepto)
>
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