[HPforGrownups] SHIP: RE: Questions for R/Hers...

[morine10 at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 12136


Hi again!

I wrote
> --HGTG is IMO simply pairing the main male protagonist with the main
> > female protagonist with disregard to the (sometimes subtle) clues left
> > by the author that point elsewhere.
> 

Penny:
> Well, the H/H types do not use HGTG as an argument.  We *hate* HGTG --
> it's demeaning to Hermione first of all.  It's the *R/H* types who have
> used HGTG.  They use it to say that H/H *can't* end up together because
> it *would* be HGTG.  But, there are lots of scenarios under which H/H
> get together at some point that do not fall into HGTG (IMO).
> 

BBennett
> Penny, I didn't make myself clear. What I tried to express is that 
> while I think HGTG as defense for Ron and Hermione has no 
> logic behind it, the concept of HGTG as support of a character 
> pairing might at least be a debatable theory, from a literary 
> standpoint, at least.  I didn't mean to suggest that H/H'er routinely 
> use HGTG to support or defend their views!
> 
> 

We are *never* going to see eye to eye.  I could explain HGTG till I'm quite 
blue in the face but I'll try one more time.  It was never meant to say that 
anyone (male or female) should be *getting* anyone.  And personally, girl 
doesn't offend me, but that's just me so sorry to all those that are 
offended.  Let's just drop HGTG and I will ask this:

As an H/H type you claim that R/H is obvious and why would JKR go for the 
obvious?  As an R/H type, I ask wouldn't pairing the main male protagonist 
with the main female protagonist be obvious from a literary standpoint?  Why 
would JKR tread down this obvious path?  

Penny:
> I do hope that you are speaking solely about the "kid" readers and not
> levelling a huge insult at the reasonably large number of adults with
> advanced degrees who fall into the H/H camp.  <g>  It is the  opinion of
> many H/H'ers that the R/H types are the ones who are missing the clues
> left by JKR and automatically pairing Hermione off with Ron because the
> surface text so clearly indicates that *he* likes *her*.  We think
> they're missing the ship!  <g>
> 

Er, yeah the kids, that's what I meant! <vbg>  Actually, the last *several* 
times I've posted on this I've made a point to clarify that I was speaking of 
the younger readers.  However, the R/H types of various ages with varying 
levels of education will continue to argue that there is no H/H subtext. <vbg>
 

Penny
> She's hit us over the head with the fact that Ron likes Hermione.  But,
> wouldn't it be entirely too obvious (and too unlike JKR) to tread down
> that path without throwing in a plot twist or two (or three ....)?  <g>
> 

Ron wears his heart on his sleeve.  Hermione is a bit more reserved.  I don't 
think R/H would be too obvious or too unlike JKR at all.  I really don't 
think that she has to add a *twist* to everything or will feel the need to.  
Some things can be cut and dry and still be interesting and fun to read 
about. :)


-Mo
(AKA Moey)
Who thought she was a Type B, but as it turns out she's a Type R/H

"Can I have a look at Uranus too, Lavender?" - Ron Weasley, Harry Potter and 
the Goblet of Fire


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