Hogwarts population - I have proof!
Steve Vander Ark
vderark at bccs.org
Sat Feb 17 06:42:08 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 12490
>
> Well, Simon answered this very eloquently indeed. Wanna do the
Hogwarts
> FAQ instead of me Simon??! <g> Seriously, this topic has been
debated
> quite a bit in the past, and there's plenty of inconsistent
evidence all
> the way around. Being one of those in the 300 students camp, I
would
> say that the above incident can be discounted if one considers that
> there are likely alumni, Hogsmeade residents, parents and others who
> donned green to support Slytherin in the match.
And I again point out that each time Harry sees such large numbers
it's when he's facing something frightening (okay, he's a Gryffindor,
so it makes him nervous more than scared...). Since we observe the
castle and the events in it through his point of view almost
exclusively in the books, and since there are a number of other
incidents where what is described is clearly exaggeration, I feel
that those big numbers are inflated. Harry sees 200 Slytherin
supporters before a big Quidditch match against Slytherin. He sees
1200 seats at the Yule Ball just before he has to dance in front of
all those people. I know this isn't proof of anything, but I see it
as providing reasonable doubt.
>
> > Yet, as Dai said earlier, Hogwarts will seem empty unless it has
1000
> > people in it and may even seem quite empty with this number in
it. It is described
> > as being massive and, as pointed out, it takes ages to get from
one part of
> > the castle to another. The corridors are described as being busy
and this
> > could only happen with a large number of people in a small space.
> >
> What if the castle (built by the founders during a completely
different
> age) is too large for the current wizarding population? I guess
what I
> mean is: couldn't the wizarding population level have shrunk in the
1000
> years since the school was founded?
Also, while the castle is large, the actual inhabited areas might be
in a fairly compact area. Why locate classrooms far apart from each
other, with the few exceptions of Divination and Potions? The rest
seem to be along a couple of corridors on the second and third
floors, near the top of the staircase. Most of the rest of the place
is given over to who knows what, stuff to explore, trophy rooms and
storage and hidden chambers and strange mirrors.
I agree that the Quidditch stadium would be pretty empty, no matter
how big it is, with only 250 people there. Add a few supporters,
maybe a hundred, and we're still talking a tiny crowd. And the field
itself has to be huge to allow a game of that nature to take place.
Maybe their stands are just in one place, along on long side of the
pitch, or maybe there's a section on each side.
>
> > But I pity the poor people having to sit through the sorting.
Taking
> > an average of one minute per student, which seems reasonable, and
a
> > year size of 150 (about equal to 1000/7) gives a sorting of 2 and
a
> > half hours. To get the sorting in at under 30 minutes would
requires
> > each student to go from being lined up to having been sorted in 12
> > seconds, which would be one incredible feat.
>
> Thanks to our resident statistician! I agree that this also makes
no
> sense in the context of a larger student body. Along with a number
of
> other things I might add!
And add to that the required size of each house table with 250 kids
sitting at it. They'd never hear Dumbledore speak! There was no
reference to his casting a Sonorus spell on himself. And Harry et al
can certainly see the head table very well, so they can't be a
hundred feet away.
Steve Vander Ark
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which has a page about this whole question
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