Who is Nancy Stouffer (was Re: Interim Ruling/club copy of book)
heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu
heidi.h.tandy.c92 at alumni.upenn.edu
Tue Feb 20 14:45:57 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 12672
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Stephanie Malfoy" <StephanieMalfoy at h...>
wrote:
> Ok, so I have been reading these posts and feeling totally out of
the loop.
> Who is this woman, what is this books, where is her site, when did
she file
> a court case, why is she mad at JKR(aside from copyng a bok which
Jo prob
> didnt), and how did you guys hear about this? Wow, I covered them
all! I
> could be the next Linda Ellerby from that news show for kids, you
know with
> all of the questions...
Since I am the writer of the Stouffer/Legal Issues FAQ (which will be
available at some point soon!) it's my responsibility to do this
response.
Nancy Stouffer is claiming that the terms MUGGLE and MUGGLES identify
her goods, and that JKR, Scholastic and Warner Brothers' use of the
term "MUGGLES" in the books and the ancillary products infringes on
her use of the terms.
According to her agent, Nancy Stouffer first contacted Scholastic in
August about her concerns that elements in the Potter books,
particularly the use of the "Muggles characters", violated Stouffer's
trademarks. Stouffer's Muggle characters first appeared in her 1984
book, Rah and the Muggles and were trademarked in 1986. No trademark
applications were filed for the marks she is claiming to own until
February, 2000.
Ms Stouffer claims that the following similarities between the HP
books and her book mean that JKR is infringing on her trademarks:
Both books have a mythical place, a great hall, a dark secret path
(can someone tell me where in book 1 this is?) And surprisingly
enough, boats by a lake and seats in a great hall! How unique!
The hp books have a sorcerer's stone, and Neville's "body changes
become blistered with boils"; the Stouffer book has a worry stone,
and "Nevil[`]s bodies change become deformed/skin rough".
She also thinks that because the hp books have a nimbus 2000 broom
that flies through the sky and her book has a nimbus mythical
warrior that flies through the sky. Of course, a nimbus is a type of
cloud, and is defined as a "radiant light that appears usually in the
form of a circle or halo about or over the head in the representation
of a god, demigod, saint, or sacred person such as a king or an
emperor", and is a term from classical Greek mythology.
Finally, she thinks that in book 1, questions are asked "before
others already there". When did this happen in book 1? In class?
During the sorting?
She also says that there's a similarity when the muggles [are]
rejoicing "happy, happy day", whereas in her book, muggles [are]
rejoicing "oh what a wonderful day" but no muggles in the hp books
say that. Wizards do, on November 1, 1981.
IF YOU WANT TO READ MORE....
A lawyer who has a website including book reviews and book publishing
information
(http://www.crosswinds.net/~jsavage/journals/j9912.html#99Dec01 and
http://www.crosswinds.net/~jsavage/journals/j0003.html) discusses the
original Scholastic complaint.
Jenna's site has a great list of other places where the word MUGGLE
has been used it's at
http://www.geocities.com/harrypotterfans/muggles.html. Salon magazine
has a similar list at
A very funny fanfic about where Nancy Stouffer really got her ideas
is at http://blue.fanfiction.net/master.cfm?action=story-
read&storyid=40128 it's called Son of Scabbers.
If for some reason you actually want to see exactly what Nancy
Stouffer has to say, go to http://www.realmuggles.com but don't
send her any death threats or Avada Kedaveras.
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