[HPforGrownups] Re: Various ships / who'll die?

[Caius Marcius]

No: HPFGUIDX 8259


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  From: naama 
  To: HPforGrownups at egroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 10:43 AM
  Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Various ships / who'll die?


  --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Rita Winston" <catlady at w...> wrote:

  In the delightful issue of who dies I have nothing to offer but my gut feelings.
  First of all, I disagree with anyone who thinks that one of the major characters (Harry, 
  Hermione, Ron) will die. I will bet anybody my last knut that the end of book 7 will find 
  them alive and well (after M. Pomfrey regrows several of their organs, obviously).

  I also quite firmly believe that these will not die either - Dumbledore (if he dies, it 
  will be at the end of book 7 only), Molly, Arthur, Ginny, Fred and George Weasley (well, 
  maybe one of the twins, but I really hope not), Hagrid.

  These are the possible deaths (I feel like some kind of Trelawney now): Bill or Charley 
  Weasley, Crookshanks, either Lupin OR Sirius, a not very central teacher (Sprout, Flitwick 
  and so own. Not McGonagall), Krum, Fleur, any of the kids at Gryffindor but not Neville (I 
  think), Cho (I don't really think she'll die, though), Fudge, other Ministry officials, 
  Snape might die heroically at some point (but not next book), any number of Death Eaters, 
  possibly the Dursleys (Aunt Petunia?).

  Like I said, its gut feelings (which makes it very difficult to argue with, YAY!). Beyond 
  gut feeling there's also the fact that JKR is keeping to the format of a certain kind of a 
  fantasy story. Thats not to say she can't or won't break from this format, but so far she 
  hasn't. When she warned that a friend of Harry's will die in GoF it turned out to be Cedric 
  Diggory, more of an acquintance than a friend. So, although she issued the scary warning 
  that "that's when the deaths begin" (when and where was that, BTW?), I wouldn't go so far as 
  to believe that the next books will resemble teenage horror films

  Hey, I enjoy Freddy Kreuger as much as the next guy, but let's look at a more exalted parallel - the Elizabethan/Jacobean theatre.  (And that may be "exalted" in the sense that the John Huston character in Chinatown noted that old businessmen, old whores and old buildings all get more respectable with age). Suppose that Shakespeare doled out Hamlet to his public an act at a time, and we've so far been given the first three acts.  So, we've had one death so far (Polonius), though we've also learned in Act III that Claudius did murder his elder brother.  Now let us further suppose that Shakespeare in the course of interviews with the press revealed that he had the entire plot of Hamlet sketched out, and that there were going to be a lot more deaths before the play's final resolution...How might we have possibly predicted the final resolution of the play (ANSWER: We would not have even come close: that's what makes Shakespeare and JKR geniuses, and the rest of us mere fans.....)

  I've previously given my guesses on the Vol 5-7 death toll: among the good guys, Dumbledore, Hagrid, Black, Lupin, Moody, but not Hermione, any of the Weasleys, or Harry Potter (although I confess that my confidence is most shaky with respect to our titular hero); among the bad guys, definitely Voldy, definitely Wormtail (after crossing back over to the "good" side), Malfoy pere et fils. etc.  I think Snape will buy the farm, and although his status will remain highly ambiguous over the next three books, he will ultimately prove himself worthy of Dumbledore's confidence.

       - CMC
   



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