[Fwd: Re: [Snapefans] LONG--Snape thoughts--let's get rolling...]

[Amanda Lewanski]

No: HPFGUIDX 8543

See?

--Amanda

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flaearthgoddess at yahoo.com wrote:

> You say that you think Snape left Voldemort because because he killed
> Lily, but Dumbledore says that Snape became a spy before the fall of
> Voldemort at great personal risk, which would indicate that he was
> leaving Voldemort (in his heart, at least) at that time.  So that
> would have occurred before Lily's death.

Not exactly. I think that for some unspecified reason, probably that
Lily married James, during Voldemort's "era" Snape decided to become a
spy for the good guys. I doubt he was pleased at having to protect
James, but I bet he'd do it to protect Lily, too. It is intimated in
that confrontation scene between Harry and Snape, right after the
Hogsmeade mud-throwing incident, that Snape might have been the one to
tip James or Dumbledore off about the leak in their little clique. So
clearly he was a spy for some time.

What I meant was the thing that pushed Snape to a complete break.
Dumbledore seems totally convinced that Snape is trustworthy and will
never return to Voldemort. It seems that Voldemort is pretty certain
too, although he does say "he believes" has left him completely, not "he
knows." I think these two, Dumbledore and Voldemort, knew Snape well
enough to understand his internal code, and knew that Voldemort had gone
too far in killing Lily.

Snape clearly hated James, and probably was very hurt by whatever
rejection Lily did, and probably hated James even more because Snape
would believe James knew of his humiliation. But he would have protected
James because of Lily. No matter who ended up with her, I doubt Snape
ever opened his heart more than once, and his one love, regardless of
who *she* loved, was killed and Voldemort did it.

But whatever the details, I think this nicely explains the complexity of
Snape's reactions to Harry. Harry looks like James--bad. Harry has
Lily's eyes--painful. Harry, by being the cause of Voldemort's attack,
caused Lily's death--painful. Lily died to protect Harry--reason to
protect, as carrying out Lily's wishes (as some have construed some of
Snape's comments as anger that Harry puts himself in danger the careless
way his father did). I don't think Snape had, until the end of book 4,
ever even considered or treated with Harry as his own person; I think
Harry has been a walking mass of conflicting associations for him. I
think that's one reason that his expression was "unreadable" or whatever
the term was. New thoughts were percolating.

And as I said, I think that it is not that Dumbledore asks Snape to
return to Voldemort and that danger which makes Dumbledore look worried,
but that in asking him to try to return to Voldemort, Dumbledore must
ask Snape to say that Lily wasn't really such a big deal.

> Snape cannot go back to Voldemort because he has been exposed, not
> only by not showing up with the other death eaters,

Any good conniving nasty person can think up a real good excuse for
that. Like, it was the middle of the tournament and he was in front of
loads of people, and he can serve the Dark Lord better if everyone
doesn't *know,* etc.

> but also from PS/SS when he meets Quirrell in the Forbidden Forest and
> confronts him.  Voldemort would have been in the turban at that time,
> so he would have witnessed the conversation.

I can't remember--do we ever hear what was said? Or just Quirrell's
reactions? But again, Snape can go back and confess his folly, that he
betrayed his lord for a trivial thing like the love of a woman, get
zapped and then re-instituted as a member. Might take him a while to get
really "in," but then again, Voldemort has no one (that we know of)
close to Harry anymore, and he might take the risk of allowing Snape
back on board.

--Amanda


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