Trelawney and the Centaurs

[Victoria McLure]

No: HPFGUIDX 9277

--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, brandgwen at h... wrote:

 
> In the case of Trelawney, I'm yet to be convinced that she is a 
> baddie.  I just think she's just a nutter.  While she does use the 
> phrase "Dark Lord" after her prediction, it is in response to 
Harry's 
> quoting her previous words.  She then restates the phrase using her 
> own words.
> 
> " 'The Dark Lord?  He Who Must Not Be Named?  My dear boy, that's 
> hardly something to joke about... rise again, indeed...' "
> 
> What interests me, though, is the fact that, when making 
predictions, 
> Trelawney does use someone else's voice and someone else's language. 
 
> Thus far, I have assumed she was speaking for the fates, but what if 
> she's not a seer at all?  What if she's just the unwitting dummy and 
> the seer-ventriliquist is somewhere in the shadows? 

I agree.  I doubt Trelawney would be a very good baddie--you couldn't 
count on her to have all of her bits of mental capacity in one place 
at the same time.  
> 
> Here's a scatter-brained theory; as yet, we don't know what the 
> Centaurs call Voldemort.  It is possbile that they know and have 
> spoken with him, if only to refuse him their assistance.  In PS, 
Bane 
> says " 'Remember, Firenze, we are sworn not to set ourselves against 
> the heavens...' "  Sworn to whom?  Maybe, having seen the impending 
> bloodshed in the stars, the Centaurs made a deal with Voldemort - 
> leave us alone and we won't oppose you.  However, as things got bad, 
> this became too much for certain of the Centaurs.  Rather than 
openly 
> break their truce, they used a human mouthpiece to get their message 
> to Dumbledore.  That is why Bane and Ronan are so edgy about Firenze 
> helping Harry - they know they are already on thin ice.  Young 
> Firenze, however, does not.

I always assumed they were sworn to their own code.  That is, while 
they might know what is going to happen, they are sworn to keep their 
own council so that they are not on any side.  The mythological 
equivalent to Switzerland, if you will.  My mythology on Centaurs is 
somewhat hazy, but I always remember them as being rather apolitical 
beings who are not going to meddle in the affairs of others.  And, I 
don't see them making any sort of deal with Voldemort. I think their 
"deep thinking" would keep them from that.

Just a thought.

Vic
> 
> Just an idea,
> Gwen.