Fanfic tangent

Sun Jan 21 17:39:08 UTC 2001

No: HPFGUIDX 10010

>    Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:17:45 -0800 (PST)
>    From: Flourish <slytherinkeeper at yahoo.com>
>Subject: "Fanfic Tangent"
>
> > She never said Hermione and Ron belong together.
> > She's never so much
> > as said Ron will survive Book 5! *chokes quietly to
> > self* Oh, dear,
> > is the ship discussion hoving into view again?
>
>LOL, I know she hasn't said anything... but you must
>admit that the books are very vague on any H/H
>relationship, whereas they definetly show that Ron
>likes Hermione.
>
She never says that Ron Likes Hermione!  Never!

>Right now, I'm not going to commit to either side -
>this I have decided <g> I enjoy both H/R and H/H fics
>and that is that. Harrykins and Hermy-oh-ninny don't
>belong together any more than Ronny-poo belongs with
>Hermy-oh-ninny, at least, not until the Creator says
>so.

I personally won't be signing the R/H forever list until I see some proof.  
I like H/H the most and think it is absolutely perfect. Until someone can 
convince me R/H is going to happen I stick with my beliefs.
>
> > because I
> > find him hard to
> > write than anything else.
>
>I've noted that more fanfic authors find Ron hard to
>write than any other character. Generally, I think
>it's hard to keep characters in-character, because you
>aren't the one who created them; you don't know what
>Ron's favorite color is or even his favorite food,
>whether he *really* loves Hermi or not or if it's just
>puppy love, whatever. And Ron's quite hard to pin
>down; he can be quite one-dimensional at times, yet
>you know he's deeper than that - it's always just out
>of your reach.
>
>Er, just out of my reach. Really that whole rant is
>rather me-centric. Cassie, d'you feel somewhat the
>same? No offense, but when I've read him in DD/DS he's
>been always rather angry. (I shouldn't scold you about
>characterization, though, considering I've never
>written a fic with Ron as a central part!)
>
> > But honestly, I find the fanfictions where Ron, upon
> > discovering that
> > Hermione is dating Harry or Draco or what have you,
> > is so distraught
> > that he flings himself off Gryffindor Tower to a
> > horrid death below
>
>There's a ton of Hermione-suicide fics, too, only one
>of which I've ever liked (I honestly can't remember
>the title/author right now, but it was a stream of
>conciousness that was beautifully written but didn't
>give you enough back story to ruin the moment). I do
>think that our favorite trio, being in Gryffindor,
>should show a little more backbone than that - after
>all, in Gryffindor "dwell the brave of heart," and to
>use a cliche, suicide is the coward's way out.

Also, Hermione does not show any signs of a suicidal person.  Not even with 
circumstances.  Most people who commit suicide do it because they see know 
other way out.  Hermione seems like the type of person who would look for 
other solutions.  Again I would want proof (at least Sirius--er, serious 
character developement) before I could believe any story with suicide.
>
> > Ugh, the whole scene makes me ill.
>
>Methinks you might be getting a little *too* into the
>characters here!
>
> > However, I
> > was always
> > confused, as I had the distinct impression that V
> > kept hammering on
> > how Crouch had "never wavered".
>
>V probably didn't know that Crouch had wavered - if he
>hadn't been told, how could he know? Especially if
>Pettigrew didn't know that Crouch had begged to be
>released, and he probably didn't - having not been at
>the trial (as far as I can tell; if someone finds that
>he was, I apologize)
>
> > but one of my biggest pet peeves are the
> > H/H fics that don't deal
> > with the Ron issue at all, or deal with it too
> > tidily.
>
>Well, there are some that were written before Book IV
>came out (pokes at "Shades of Grey" reluctantly) and
>that's not the writer's fault. Okay, I'll admit that
>I've written one of these: at that point in time there
>was no indication that Ron "liked liked" Hermione, and
>it really didn't need that much tidying (in my - erm -
>twelve-year-old mind, because I was 12 when I started
>writing that story).
>
> > Ok first, where is the fanfic posted? I am sure this
> > is a duh
> > question, if you know what I mean. Sorry for being
> > dense!
>
>Although others have answered your questions about
>fanfiction.net, it *is* quite daunting to sort through
>- I'd suggest looking at the Golden Toad Awards
>(http://www.geocities.com/toadawards/) and looking up
>the fics that have won at fanfiction.net. Although
>it's not a guarantee that they're the greatest, these
>are the "reader's choice" (and I've just realized I'm
>plugging my/Firebolt's awards, so I'll shut up now).
>
>Now, I've a question for you all: Does anyone else
>agree with me in the thought that Lily might have
>been, I don't know, less traditional than she is often
>portrayed? With the (fairly) new information on how
>wizards live much longer than "regular" folk, it's
>becoming a possibility that Lily and James were older
>than just-out-of-Hogwarts when they had Harry. What
>did she do in the meantime? Could she have lived
>through the Muggle-bra-burning era without becoming
>some sort of feminist? Personally, I have an image of
>a much "stronger" woman than most people describe her
>as, and I'd like other fans' thoughts.
>
My Global Studies class (I'm 15) discussed women's roles rather thouroughly 
for several days.  I was the only girl to point out the factr that women 
might have careers and work from home too.  If Lily wasn't just out of 
school (which seems likely) she probably had a career.  It seems likely to 
me that she either worked from home or stopped working to stay at home with 
Harry.  That is what the wizarding world seems to do.  Mrs. Weasley stays at 
home to take care of her kids, and every other women seen id either single 
or stays with their kids.

I think people make Lily out to be too meek.  She was Head Girl and 
incredibly bright.  You could compare her to Hermione in some respects.  If 
he lived throught he '70's bra burning she might have become a bit of a 
feminist.  It doesn't mean she was radical about it but propbably had some 
ideas.  Of course the entire wizarding world seems rather lacking on the 
Feminist front.  It would be a great thing to get Hermione involved in (once 
she frees the House-Elves, of course.)

Radical Feminist-Brigid/Slaybelle/Virgo
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