[HPforGrownups] Shipping Party Boats ... Anyone for a Cruise?

[mlleelizabeth at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 10173

In a message dated 1/21/2001 10:30:16 PM Central Standard Time, 
pennylin at swbell.net writes:


> > Those of us with strong preference often say things like "those misguided
> > __/__ shippers" and tease each other, but I don't think any of us truly
> > believe that our humble opinions outweigh JKR's universe.
> >
> <Yes -- it can be light-hearted teasing with no hard feelings!>

Light hearted and humorous, yes.  Teasing with no hard feelings?  Sorry, 
can't agree.
 
<No, that's not what I'm saying.  > 
> he'd like to date her.  She says, "Sorry, but I don't feel that way
> about you."  She either goes on to say explicitly, "I'm interested in
> Harry," or Ron somehow divines this.  Ron figures out that Harry has
> romantic interest in Hermione, but hasn't said anything because he knew
> how Ron felt about Hermione.>
> 
> I can accept that scenario and see Ron "stepping aside" (although I believe 
> it would cause difficulty in his feelings towards the other two) in this 
> case.  However, I consider it highly unlikely that Harry has feelings for 
> or would be happy with Hermione.

<> "step aside," Harry might allow 
> himself to develop feelings for Hermione.  >

Why would Ron think that?  

<In either case, would Ron be so jealous &> he would refuse 
> to clear the way for a H/H romance?  I don't necessarily think so.>

I think he would be jealous and I don't think that would be small minded of 
him, just human.

> <I think we have a fundamental disagreement regarding Hermione's
> character (I'm not putting in all the quotes here).  Elizabeth basically
> seems to suggest that Hermione is *still* the same bossy know-it-all
> that she was in SS/PS.  I think she's changed and is hardly recognizable
> as the same person at all.>
> 
I agree that we have a fundeamental disagreement regarding Hermione's 
character. I also believe that many *fanfic* Hermiones are indeed no longer 
bossy know-it-alls and that they are hardly recognizable as the same person, 
but I don't consider them Hermione, which is why I can enjoy PoU, STNE and 
ASA.  I consider the Hermione in that universe a completely new character.

> > What about Ron and Hermione both declaring their feelings for each other?
> >
> 
> That only works if you're in the school of thought that Hermione likes
> Ron.>>


Right.

If the author has Hermione say she does like Ron then she does, as far as I'm 
concerned.  

 
> > I'm sorry if I react harshly to that suggestion, but teasing is a very
> > major trigger for me and I never find it the least bit humorous.
> >
> <I don't really know how to respond to this.  The shipper debates do
> involve alot of teasing.  If it's too hard for you to take or recognize
> for what it is (light-hearted banter), then maybe skipping the shipping
> posts is a good idea.  I hope your feelings haven't been hurt, as I'm
> sure that's not anyone's intention.  But, the shipping debates are
> better off being carried off in a joking, teasing manner than if
> everyone really had their guns out for a true debate, don't you think?
> >

I think it's possible to be lighthearted and humorous without teasing.  

Love & Light,
*E*l*i*z*a*b*e*t*h*
~ You can never have too many Weasleys ~


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