Chapter 27 Padfoot Returns
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ffionmiles at hotmail.com
Mon Jan 22 23:54:13 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 10212
In answer to Q.2 about Ront rying so hard to impress - it shows one
of the greatest things about HP, especially as [technically] a bokk
for hcildren - in that Joanne gives all characters flaws which we all
have - they're not all good/bad [except voldemort, because pure evil
can exist - though they too have a certain charm to those who want to
be alured by it] - but people we can really love aren't perfect - and
she's made Ron the least perfect of all of them - sarcastic, short-
tempered, jealous, wanting to impress - but we all know the reasons
behind it [I mean, will Mrs Weasley ever knit him a jumper that isn't
maroon? Her other sons seem to get nicer colours!] and I for one
can't help loving him even more!
--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Marvin Long" <msl at f...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Carole Estes" <lrcjestes at e...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > "If you want to know what a man is like, take a good look at how
he
> treats
> > his inferiors, not his equals."
> >
> > "Call me snuffles."
> >
> > Questions for discussion:
> >
> > 1. What do you think the quote above says about the wizarding
> culture. I
> > was uncomfortable when Sirius so casually referred to inferiors
and
> equals.
> > I know he was speaking in reference to house elves and wizards,
but
> what
> > might the pecking order of the wizarding world be. Are house
elves
> on the
> > same rung as hippogriffs in the world of magical creatures. Are
the
> > inferiors simply non-humans or are there inferior humans as the
> Malfoys
> > believe. And does Sirius believe there are inferior humans?
>
> I think Sirius was talking about the universal social pecking order
> that exists no matter how egalitarian one's personal ideals. How
well
> does the boss treat his employees, for instance. How does the
> affluent person treat the homeless panhandler, or the witch her
> elves. In short, how you react when you find yourself in a superior
> position with respect to another person or being tells volumes
because
> such a position offers a chance to tyrranize and demean on the one
> hand and a chance to encourage and uplift on the other.
>
>
> > 2. What do you think of Ron in this chapter. Was he coming across
> as trying
> > too hard to impress everyone, between the other students with his
> tall tale
> > about battling the merpeople and trying to discount Hermione's
> observations
> > during the cave discussions.
>
> I think Ron is clearly insecure and feels he has to compete just to
> matter: Harry is famous, Hermione is brilliant, but Ron is
> just...Ron. Hermione is an easier target than Harry for churlish
> behavior, I suspect.
>
> > 3. What about Hermione. Is she showing more maturity than typical
> of her
> > age?
>
> She's way cool. I don't understand why so many people seem to think
> she'd be a difficult "match." For a dullard, yeah, but IMO she's
> quite a sexy brain. Ahem, for a 14-yr. old.
>
> > 4. Did anyone pick up any clues that were useful to figuring out
the
> ending
> > in his chapter?
>
> We learn that another Crouch exists, which is a clue to things
> witnessed on the Marauder's map, but I personally never made that
> connection.
>
> > 5. Snuffles! How cute is that?
>
> Beats Scabbers, anyway. (Non sequitur: I wonder how an animagus
> reacts if, when in animal form, another critter of the same species
> goes into heat....)
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