Loss of power theory (was Harry's Special Powers)

[Kimberly]

No: HPFGUIDX 10472

--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Dai Evans" <dwe199 at s...> wrote:

> 
> you're forgetting his friends. Everything Harry has done in fighting 
> evil, he has done with the help of his friends. That's one of the 
> more prominent messages of the books; to rely on friends. I suspect 
> it will be the combined talents of Harry, Hermione and Ron (plus any 
> random others) who will ultimately defeat Voldemort, as it has 
always 
> been in the books so far.
> 
> 
Dai,

You're really getting in my head here!  That's one of the main things 
that I think the superharry theory overlooks.  When I was trying 
unsuccessfully to put together my thoughts last night that's one of 
the things I was focusing on.  In most of the major crises in the 
books a group effort was involved in the resolution. 

examples:

With the troll - Harry jumped on his back and Ron charmed the club.  

In the forest when Harry fist encountered Quirrell/Voldemort - Firenze
and Hagrid helped Harry escape.

'Through the trapdoor' - The trio worked together to get through the 
obstacles, Harry faced Voldemort, and Dumbledore pulled him out.

The chamber - Ron and Harry had help from the prostrate Hermione for 
the clue and from Moaning Myrtle to find the opening.  Harry had help 
from Dumbledore and Fawkes and from Godric Gryffindor himself while 
inside the chamber with Riddle.  

Harry gets by with a little help from his friends, his mentors, and 
even in some ways the universe in general.

But even if I didn't agree with Dai on that one, if the key themes I 
see in the books are what were really intended I'd say the superharry 
theory can't be right.

The two themes that have stood out to me most in Harryland I have 
taken from the mouth of Dumbeldore:

The first was when he explained to Harry in CoS that it was his 
choices that make him who he is, and not his potential.

The second is at the end of PS/SS when Harry is upset because while he 
kept Voldemort from getting the stone he knew V would come back. 
Dumbledore said: "Nevertheless, Harry, while you may only have delated 
his return to power, it will merely take someone else who is prepared 
to fight what seems a loosing battle next time - and if he is delayed 
again, and again, why, he may never return to power."  

To me this says that it's the act of standing up against evil that is 
key, not necessarily being stronger than the evil in question.
If, as I think, these are two of the important themes in the books, 
then I'd say the superharry theory would be counterproductive.  

Then there's one other thing.  I think some people are forgetting the 
thing that stands out to me most about Voldemort - hubris, which in 
the end I think will be a major contributor to his downfall.  

Ok all of the above is kind of rambly and may be hard to decipher 
like my first post on the subject, so let me try to summarize in case 
it didn't make any sense.

-I think first off that the SuperHarry theory goes against the major 
themes of the book and therefore must not be correct.

-I think also that Voldemort will be defeated by a combination of 
Harry's power, will, strengths and talents, the power, will, strengths 
and talents of all the others who choose to stand against evil, and 
Voldemort's own vanity.

Does it make any sense?
kimberly