Female Archetypes

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No: HPFGUIDX 11118

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer <pennylin at s...> 
wrote:
> Hi --
> 
> Dave Hardenbrook wrote:
> 
> > For me, Ginny and Cho represent the two ultimate archtypes for 
the female sex (at least in my experience):
> >
> > The "Cho Changs" are bright, gregarious, charismatic, usually 
have a great sense of humor, and are of course popular.  
Unfortunately, they are also frequently somewhat shallow,
> > flighty, and almost
> > always have crummy taste in men.
> 
> I don't know that I would put Cho into this category honestly.  She 
does seem bright, gregarious & charismatic.  But, she seems to have a 
quiet side as well.  She definitely doesn't
> seem shallow or flighty.
> 
> > The "Ginnys" are shy, quiet, pensive, awkward and not popular.  
They are usually the ones possessing true courage, passion (however 
latent), and strength of character, but they
> > frequently get lost and unnoticed (especially by boys) in the sea 
of extroverted "Chos".
> 
> I was definitely a "Ginny" in high school.  Perhaps that's why I 
have such little sympathy for her.  :--)  Although, I must also point 
out that Ron said in CoS that Ginny "usually
> never shuts up."  Do we as readers have the perception that she's a 
shy wallflower because that's how Harry perceives her?
> 
> > (I apologize to all women who don't fit into one of the above... 
It's   strictly a generalization based on personal experience.)
> 
> It's a *big* generalization Dave. Where does Hermione fit into your 
equation?  Minerva McGonagall?   What about Molly Weasley?  Molly is 
hardly a shy wallflower type after all.
> But, she's not shallow & vapid either.
> 
> Penny

Oh my goodness, these are not female archetypes..they are a misguided 
and awful attempted to place women into two and only two categories...
Which is ridiculous..women fall into a multitude of categories just 
as men do..

this reminds me of the Indo-Europeans..when they invaded Crete/Greece 
they tried to divest the pre-patriarchal Goddesses of their 
complexity and make them into, maiden, virgin, whore, mother, crone..
real women are very complex.....

Oh goodness, that was a very misogynist post

Susan