Odp: Odp: [HPforGrownups] Pettigrew vs. Sirius

[Monika Zaboklicka]

No: HPFGUIDX 11188


>Monika said:
>>Well, I rather imagine Black full of adrenaline in that scene. Got nothing
>>to support this, you know, it's just my weird imagination.
>
>I'll have to support what Carole has said, Sirius must have been in a
>state of (clinical) shock at that time.

As I said, it's just my imagination. Plus perhaps my belief that *I*
wouldn't go after somebody in the state of clinical shock.

>Maybe he [Pettigrew] wasn't hopeless, but anyone could have defeated Black
that
>night, it wasn't a big deal given the state he was in.

Well, not anyone, I don't think I could ;-) But you agreed that Peter "maybe
wasn't helpless" and that's was all I was arguing about...


>That's one POV, I have another one: his hands may have trembled, but
>mostly of fear. I know that it sounds weird, but I really don't think
>that rage and fury were Sirius' predominant feelings in this moment.
>He was slow to react because of the shock.

I guess you like your POV as much as I like mine. There's no use to try to
convince my imagination to see anything it doesn't want to see, so I think
we'll both stick to our visions. After a second thought I must admit that
*shock* theory better explains Sirius's laughter than *rage* one, but my
imagination never listens to reason.

>>It's my belief
>>that James was his "best friend", Remus and Peter were just "friends". I
>>don't see Sirius as a lad who could truly befriend somebody who
>>hero-worshippes him.
>
>Where do you get the idea that Remus hero-worshipped Sirius?

I meant Peter only, sorry I wasn't more specific.

>I always
>thought that Remus was as important to Sirius as James was, don't
>forget that Remus was the reason they all became Animagi. I think he
>must have been *very* important to both James and Sirius to try this
>tremendously difficult magic.

My version is that James has done for Remus and Sirius participated for the
fun of the thing.

>
>>I think that seemingly intelligent boy of sixteen should do
>>some thinking before sending a colleague to death or fate not much better
>>than it.
>
>Well, teenage boys aren't very sensitive most of the time, they are
>some sort of "hormone bombs" (sorry to all you guys, I know there are
>exceptions to this rule :-)) ready to go off at any time. I think you
>see this from your adult and female POV.

This is not only "adult female" POV, it's also a "Fanatic Snape-fan" POV...
Anyway, I'm afraid that if they were Muggles, and a "joke" like that ended
up with another lad's death, the police and a judge for juveniles wouldn't
treat it merely as a result of "hormone bombs". But perhaps my support for
Snape alters my POV too much...
But why, after 20 years (including 12 years in Azkaban) Sirius still says
that
"it served him right"?

Monika Z.