Sirius in bk 1 ch 1 (was Who should raise Harry)

[absinthe at mad.scientist.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 11283

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Amy Z" <aiz24 at h...> wrote:
> Charmian wrote:
> 
> > Several questions to ponder while waiting for book five, then. :) 
> Did 
> > Dumbledore know about the switch from Sirius to Pettigrew? If so, 
> > then there would be no need to warn Hagrid about Sirius.
> 
> If he'd known, he would've spoken up for Sirius and not let him go 
to 
> Azkaban; instead he told the Ministry that S was the Potters' 
> Secret-Keeper.  (Sirius should've told him about the switch after 
> their murders even if he hadn't done it before--Dumbledore might've 
> believed him, or at least investigated.  But I bet you don't get a 
> phone call before you're sent to Azkaban without trial.)
> 
> No, I think it's a sure thing he didn't know.  At the time Hagrid 
went 
> to get Harry, and for the next 12 years, Dumbledore thought Sirius 
was 
> the traitor.  I think not telling Hagrid was a real risk; (a) Hagrid 
> might have given Harry to Sirius--slim chance, because when 
Dumbledore 
> gives him instructions he follows them, but still . . . and more 
> important, (b) Hagrid needed to know who to watch out for.  What if 
> Sirius really had been the traitor?  He'd probably have killed 
Hagrid 
> and Harry when he met Hagrid at the ruins of the house.
> 
> > If McGonagall did have any idea about the whole Fidelius charm 
> thing, 
> > wouldn't she say something when Hagrid mentioned Sirius (about the 
> > motorcycle)? 
> 
> That makes sense.  The reason I thought she might have known was 
that 
> you'd think that if she thought Sirius was a perfectly terrific 
wizard 
> who was James's best friend and Harry's godfather, she'd have said 
> something along those lines to Dumbledore in opposition to his 
> bringing Harry to the Dursleys.  (AD:  "They're his only relatives." 
 
> MM:  "True, but James and Lily wanted Sirius to be his guardian.")
> 
> On the other hand, we have your reasoning, plus the fact that when 
she 
> learns James and Lily are dead she doesn't say what you would think 
> would come to mind--"you mean Sirius betrayed them?"
> 
> The thing about the motorcycle is the biggest puzzler to my mind.  
> Hagrid clearly knows nothing to make him suspect Sirius.  Dumbledore 
> lets him take Sirius's bike back to him (another discrepancy with 
> what we hear in PA, but we've dealt with that before) without 
warning 
> him, "uh, be on your guard when you go back to Sirius Black," or 
> better yet just telling him "Take it from me--don't bring him his 
> bike.  I'll explain another time"? Or has Sirius already been 
arrested 
> by then and AD knows it, so he just lets Hagrid go, knowing it's a 
> wild goose chase but that he won't come to any harm? 
> 
> One explanation for any discrepancy is that JKR herself didn't know 
> the Sirius story at the time, but I really doubt this is the case.  
It 
> is too pivotal for her not to have sketched it out, and she's said 
she 
> had the Scabbers stuff worked out from the beginning so she probably 
> had the Sirius part of the story worked out too.
> 
> Amy Z


Hmmm...you're post has me thinking. When WAS Sirius captured? 
Voldemort visited Harry's house on October 31. He wasn't delivered to 
the Dursleys until the evening of November 1, right? But in PoA, Fudge 
tells Rosmerta that the Ministry caught up with Sirius "the next day". 
Is "the next day" the day after Voldemort killed the Potters,hence 
Nov. 1 or is the "next day" the day after Harry was delivered to the 
Dursleys?

And if the Potters were killed on Oct 31. at what time did Hagrid 
arrive at Godric's Hollow?

:-)Milz