PoA chapters 18-20 summary & discussion
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Thanks to Monika for the summary!!!
Questions:
1. Do you think it was all right that Lupin didn't tell Dumbledore
about Sirius?
Well, not really all right, certainly, if you are referring to the
fact that the Marauders became animagi, thus deceiving Dumbledore.
OTOH, it is quite understandable he didn't when he was still a
Hogwarts student. And, honestly, even if Lupin strikes me as one of
the most mature and balanced characters of all, I can also understand
that he didn't go and tell D. when he was assumed as a teacher. Later
on, when he could have thought of the possibility of Sirius entering
the school grounds as a dog, it would have been wiser to go to
Dumbledore and inform him about everything. But then everything would
have come out and so I think Lupin just closed his eyes at the
possible danger for Harry and persuaded himself that the dementors
were there anyway.
2. Did you have any suspicions about Scabbers not being a rat? After
all, we
already knew that he had been in the Weasley family for quite some
time.
Nope, it didn't even seem strange to me that he had become that old,
being only a rat. It really was more crookshanks I suspected.
3. What did you think when Harry, Ron and Hermione disarmed Snape? Do
you think
they did the right thing or should they have waited for something
actually to
happen?
I LOVED it!!! even if I'm quite a Snape-ist, it was so satisfying to
see him being knocked out by the students he had always teated so
unjustly.
What I'd really like to know is whether Snape *would* have killed
Sirius. He is in exactly the same position as Harry will be some
minutes later: He finally has the possibility of revenge after a very
long time. Only that his hatred seems to me much colder and therefore
much more dangerous than harry's, so I wouldn't exclude he might have
done it. certainly, it wouldn't have been the thought of the shock he
might cause to HRH, murdering somebody right under their eyes, that
would have prevented him from killing Sirius.
4. When did you start to believe Sirius? When you heard that Scabbers
was
actually an Animagus or did it take you as long as it took Harry?
I started to change my ideas about Sirius immediately when he didn't
harm Harry or Hermione who had come after him and Ron.
6. Why do you think has Sirius waited so long before he escaped from
Azkaban?
After all, he could have gotten away years ago, since it couldn't
have taken him
twelve years to get thin enough to pass through the bars?
I've been wondering about that, too. He didn't know that Pettigrew
was still alive and so, from his point of view, he didn't have any
possibiltiy of being cleared of the "murder". OTOH, Azkaban doesn't
appeal to me as a place where you stay if you have the possibility to
escape. Even life as an outcast must be preferable to life at
Azkaban. And he knew that Harry was out there, he would have been
able to go and see him (as a dog, but anyway) from time to time.
7. When Sirius accused Pettigrew of having sold James and Lily to
Voldemort, he
was shaking all over. Why do you think did he have this kind of
reaction?
I think he was just re-living it all, and certainly the thought of
his being in Azakban, while Pettigrew was, well, free, having on his
conscience not only the killing of 13 people but also the deaths of
James and Lily, was overwhelming. Moreover, it's hard to imagine the
feeling and emotions of a person who for 13 years has not spoken to
anybody, been completely lonely with his thoughts (who knows how many
times poor Sirius turned his memories over and over again) and who
now, for the first time, lets it all out. Considering this, I find
him quite admirable.
8. We know Lupin as a very kind and calm person. Why do you think was
he almost
as eager to kill Pettigrew as Sirius was?
Kind and calm, but very determined. And certainly not "eager" to kill
Peter, I wouldn't see it like that. IMHO, for Lupin, killing Peter is
not in the least a matter of emotions, but the result of logical
thinking: Putting together what he has already done and what he'd be
able to do in the future, the logical result is: better kill him. No
use putting him into Azakaban, he could escape as easily as Sirius.
No possibility of calling the Dementors to finish him off, they would
probably have a go at sirius first. so better kill him and keep his
body as evidence to clean at least Sirius' reputation.
9. Now that you know what happened at the end of Book 4, do you think
that Harry
would have been better off if he would have let Lupin and Black kill
Pettigrew?
No way. There are very interesting possibilities with having Peter in
debt with harry for saving his life.
10. Did you feel any kind of sympathy for Pettigrew?
Do we feel any sympathy for people who went and denounced hidden jews
to the SS even if they hadn't to? I think what peter has done is not
only beyond sympathy, but also beyond comprehension. Has he been
tortured, menaced, I'd say OK, not everybody is a hero. But going to
V. without any reason ??
12. Did you think that Harry really saw his father, or the ghost of
his father
across the lake, or did you think someone else must have cast the
Patronus?
I think it's absolutely clear that he saw himself!!
Susanna/pigwidgeon37
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