PoA Chapters 21-22 Summary (even better format)
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Mon Jul 9 23:41:33 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 22199
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., naama_gat at h... wrote:
[Q: Had Black really meant to
> kill him then? It was a very dangerous prank, but was it
> cruelty on Black's part or thoughtlessness?]
I don't think it was attempted murder. That strikes me as too
planned. Sirius, "What will I do tonight? Arithmancy homework, kill
Snape, turn Remus into a murderer, sneak into the kitchen for
food..." Just doesn't work for me. However, it could certainly have
been attempted "frighten the pants off Snape." It certainly was
extremely reckless and thoughtless.
[Q:
> Why tell it in clues? Great for the story and suspense
> building, but was it really reasonable when so much is at
> stake? What if they hadn't understood?]
I think you got it in one - great for story and suspense.
[Q: What's wrong with a
> broomstick? Why did they need Buckbeak?]
>
If you can save one life, why not try to save two?
> [Q: Is there some rule as to what shape a Patronus takes? If
> so, what is the rule? What can we conclude about it from
> Harry's Patronus? Did anybody read this bit without tears in
> her/his eyes?]
I'm not convinced it necessarily takes an identifiable shape. IIRC,
Lupin drove away the Dementor on the train with an amorphous silvery
cloud. Perhaps it will take an identifiable shape when the person
using it has strong associations associated with Dementors, as Harry
does.
>
[Q: Why, though? This point has always rather
> confused me. A "single, very happy memory" is not the same
> as self-confidence, is it?]
True, but maybe there are more nuances to using a Patronus. If
you're trying to teach a relatively young person how to do this, it
might be easier for the child to focus on a vibrant, exciting,
ecstatic memory. Someone Harry's age may not have the life
experience to have full confidence in his wizard strenght, whereas an
adult might. Harry doesn't need to try to come up with a happy
memory at this point because he now knows he can do this.
> [Q: Why?? How can he hate him so much as to want him to
> receive the Kiss? Is it reasonable for a boy's grudge to be
> taken to such an extreme?]
I don't think we're seeing Severus at his most rational. Plus, he
has no evidence that Sirius is innocent. When he had the upper hand
in the Shrieking Shack he could have agreed to bringing everyone to
the castle. If they couldn't provide proof, then he'd have been able
to hand over the escaped murderer (to much applause from the MOM), he
could have made a good case against the untrustworthy werewolf, and
he'd have the Trio in deep trouble for being where they were.
It does seem to me to be a bit extreme to still be at this fever
pitch of hatred after almost 13 years. There has got to be more to
this Sirius/Severus feud to explain it.
>
[Q: If werewolves are
> only dangerous at the time of the full moon, why are people
> afraid of them all the time? I can understand the fear when
> you don't know who the werewolf is, but when you know
> who he is, it should be easy to take precautions against him,
> no? Doesn't it remind you of another prejudice against a
> different disease?]
People are stupendously irrational. You'd think they'd also
recognize that the Wolfsbane potion would keep a werewolf under
control. I think this is a deep-seated societal prejudice, and the
fact that Remus was running around for a night would be enough to
make a majority of the parents want his dismissal.
[C: how is he feeling now, returning to a life where
> no one is willing to hire him? Where no one will trust him?
> Does he have a family? Friends who can help?]
Maybe he found a way to join Sirius in the tropics.
Marianne
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