[HPforGrownups] The good and the bad of each house/ a bit of Peter

Danika Saal princess_danika at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 10 08:20:14 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 22238




>From: Melanie Brackney <ilovbrian_99 at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com
>To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [HPforGrownups] The good and the bad of each house/ a bit of Peter
>Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 07:29:19 -0700 (PDT)
>
>To defeat Voldemort it may be necessary to call on the
>various
>strengths exemplified by each the Houses ,and guard
>against the
>weaknesses that come from those strengths.
>
>
>Edis
>
>I think that, that is the most plausible idea ever
>presented on this list LOL.  Or atleast as long as I
>have been on this list.  It makes sense, why have 4
>houses each with unique strenghts if they aren't going
>to be important at one point?  For example, the
>Hufflepuffs and their loyalty seems like very good and
>non-threatening people.  However, loyalty can be a
>very bad trait if you are loyal to the wrong people.
>Gryfindors bravery is generally looked upon as a good
>thing, but sometimes brave people can be stupid and
>take unneccessary and dangerous risks.

How many times has harry just decided to do something really stupid, out of 
bravery?

>Some of the
>most brave people I know are the ones that stand on
>the sidelines of things and never truly get
>recognition for thier actions, but they aren't afraid
>to stand up for what they believe in.

>Slytherins have been given a lot of bad
>reps, I think this is mainly because we see power
>hungry people as being bad.  I think that sometimes
>ambition and the desire for power can be good
>attributes for a person to have, we need people like
>this they are what we call leaders.  I truly believe
>that at the heart, slytherins have the power to be
>good leaders.

I agree with this , mainly because the desire to be powerful doesnt always 
mean that people will be evil. JUst that a lot of people find success in 
evil.
The sorting hat never actually describes Slytherin as evil, just ambitious. 
A lot of powerful wizards have come from slytherin, not necessarily bad.
What house was Dumbledore in? How much would we all flip if it turned out he 
was from Slytherin???  He is very powerful both in terms of wizarding power 
and status.

>I mean if you want to go their
>Voldemort is a very good leader in the sense that he
>can get people to follow him, however, his cause is
>obviously not a good one.  Slytherins seem to me like
>they would be the type of people that would not be
>taken advantage of, where as for example Hufflepuffs
>will be.  I think that they know whawt they want and
>know how they are going acheive it.  Not all
>slytherins are bad I'm sure, I think that is a horrid
>misconception that Harry holds. If Salzaar Slytherin
>was really this awful person why would the other
>founders have cooperated with him to begin with.

good point. which reinforces the idea that Slytherin isnt just about evil eg 
Snape. We all though he was evil at so many different times, but he has 
proven himself to be risking more than most in the battle against Voldemort. 
Himself.

>Now, like I said before true bravery is the ability to
>stand up for what you believe in; what you believe is
>right.  It doesn't mean that you never act cowardly,
>or make mistakes.  This is why I am now entering a new
>theory does anyone think it is possible that Peter
>Petigrew might turn away from Voldemort.  While I
>believe that it is impossible to ever redeem him for
>what he did to Lily and James, but it seems to me if
>the sorting hat put him in Gryffindor it obviously
>didn't see him as this cowardly, insignifcant person.

Do we actully know what house PP is in? Or are we assuming that he was from 
Griffyndor simply because of his relationship with James, Sirius, and Lupin?

Does he have any attributes that would even allow us to think that he was 
from griffindor?
He isnt even particvularly loyal to VOldy, He's just scared.

He doesnt really have any attributes that allocate him in any house.

>This is why I see possibly redeeming himself in the
>end.  Helping defeat Voldy and then being imprisoned,
>a brave person would accept the consequences of his
>actions.  I think that we are forgetting a lot of
>little details about Peter when we throw him off as
>this cowardly, unskilled wizard.  He is obviously
>skilled to some degree, he is anigmus, which to my
>understanding is a very dangerous and advanced
>wizardry skill.

But this doesnt have anything to do with his personality, and how brave or 
loyal or intelligent or ambitious he is. All he really shows is desperation 
- a desperation to stay alive.


Danika and Brian Longbottom
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